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    help ID A Sword: Napoleonic Era Colonial?

    Ok I am officially stumped. This sword came in to me last week and after combing through all of my books, notes and the internet, I can not for my life get any comparable examples to ID it.

    The style of the hilt is very close to Napoleonic War era French and Polish sabres, with the exception of the bottom where the tang ends, which looks Germanic in nature. The sword is also engraved with what looks like a lancers motif on one side and lances and an Elephant's head on the other. My wife says she sees a lion in there too, which i don't. The sword is also decorated with stars moons and other symbols, which go ALL the way down the blade. That's highly unusual and I have not seen this before, except on ornate presentation swords in museum collections. There's also leftovers of gold leaf pressed into the blade, which has worn off with use. Why was such a nice presentation blade so heavily used?

    The swords is LARGE, about 3.5 feet from end of handle to scabbard tip, and heavy but well-balanced. the drag on the scabbard is REALLY worn almost completely down where it would have touched the ground. There are NO marks outside of the engraved ones. No maker marks, no stampings on the blade, NOTHING.

    My gut tells me it's an early blade, but what nation, conflict, etc?

    And oh yes, the previous owner decided to "spice it up" by painting the handguard and the scabbard with black latex paint. thankfully he did not touch the leather handle or anything else. it comes off fine with a bit of fingernail scraping, as I hesitate to use any chemical on this piece.

    ANY idea? I am absolutely stumped, guys!
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      blade tip and Elephant & Lances engraving
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        other engravings
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          #5
          I believe it may be revolutionary war period....possibly german. late 1700

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            #6
            I have something similar... I attributed it to Baden or that area 1810-1830's

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              #7
              Lovely piece! The general look is certainly European but the decorative motifs are a bit odd. With the elephant and the stars and moons you describe, might it be European made but intended for presentation or sale in the East? Perhaps something for a better class of Indian customer?

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                #8
                Originally posted by peter monahan View Post
                Lovely piece! The general look is certainly European but the decorative motifs are a bit odd. With the elephant and the stars and moons you describe, might it be European made but intended for presentation or sale in the East? Perhaps something for a better class of Indian customer?
                I totally agree, elephant stars and moon reminds me India....

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                  #9
                  Thanks gentlemen. I've since then posted it on other sword forums and there's a consensus that it is a German blade circa 1800 (give or take 20 years up or down) made for French Colonial officers in India or Indochina colonies.

                  There's also a possibility it a German Colonial sword of the same period, but these Solingen blades were sold to pretty much anyone, so it's hard to give that one iron-clad provenance.

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