Any pre Revolution Cuban collectors around?

[Noor]

Hi,

One nice (my second at all) Cuban pre Castro period ribbon bar arrived!

Great looking bar, very nice devices and amazing work. Any help to analize it, would be great!

Here is the aditional identification. Any help would be great!

1. ?
2. Order of Military Merit/Other Service
3. Order of Military Merit/Good Conduct
4. Order of Military Merit/Special Service
5. Order of Military Merit/Military Merit(?)Bravery in Combat(?)
6. The Armed Forces Merit Medal (1933)
7. ?
8. The Long Service Medal with 7 stars (should there be chevrons?)
9. Red Cross Order (?)
10. Venezuela Order of Francisco de Miranda (?) / Order of Carlos J. Findlay (probably civilian award don't make sence there?)

Some how I am not able to locate first award - this one should be the highest award but nothing in my mind yet.

Order of Military Merit - "Created February 27, 1912 primarily as an award for outstanding military merit, but can be awarded for other services and comes in four classes. First class for Generals, Second class for Colonels, Lieut. Cols. and Majors, Third class for Captains and Lieutenants, Fourth class for Enlisted men and non-commissioned Officers. Can be awarded to foreigners."

When awarded for other than military merit the color of the enamel on the cross is changed to correspond with the colors listed below on the ribbons:

Military Merit - Dark Red
Bravery in Combat - Purple
Humanitarian Acts - Half red, half white
Good Conduct - Blue
Continuous Service - Half white, half blue
Special Service - Green
Other Services - White

(from medalnet.net)

What class would be with the rosette? Second class I presume? In this case we know ribbon bar owner's rank - Major/Colonel.


All the best,

Timo

[Noor]

What class would be with the rosette? Second class I presume? In this case we know ribbon bar owner's rank - Major/Colonel.

Because the "wings" under the rosettes, I had been advised that this indicate actually Commander's grade awards. So, we have here General level officer ribbon bar

Still very FIRST ribbon with the metal device is mystery

ANY Cuban collectors around here???

[Noor]

Thank you to the member “Heusy68” from GMIC, there is some information around about the first ribbon.

The first ribbon on the 1st row is Cross of Maceo for Military Valour.
In summer 2007 such cross pass on ebay.I tried to get it,but I failed.
Anyway I kept picture in my computer data base and at least it helps.
The description in the ebay announce was : " Maceo Military Honour Cross awarded to cuban soldier of Battista Government who died defending the Moncada Quarter Army Barracks" in 1953".The family that sold that cross to the ebay seller told him that only 31 of these cross was given to families of soldiers and that it was the most important military award from before 1959.
Size is 45 millimeters.


Emmanuel

Now, it can’t be entirely true – especially how casualty wears this award on the ribbon bar??? Also Wikipedia shows that Batista government side (commanded by Col. Alberto del Rio Chaviano), there were 19 killed, 30 wounded, not 31. So, if this is senior officer ribbon bar and he got killed or at least wounded there, it would be mentioned. After some quick research I didn't found any high rank officers mentioned.

Looks like the award is correct on the picture and also most likely I can be sure that it is Maceo Order/Cross, etc related, but I still need some advice and help with that. If someone can tell more about this award, what is the entitlmenets, etc?

Thanks to the “Heusy68” again!!!!


Noor

[Elmar Lang]

Hello,

I also like the orders and decorations of less known countries.

In my collection I have a large, oval medal for exceptional merits, awarded by the Congress of Cuba, in 1926.

Besides being a nice, colourful piece, I don't know anything more. Would you be so kind to help me knowing more about this piece?

Thank you in advance,

Elmar Lang

[Noor]

Thanks to the Ulsterman from GMIC!!! Now I can be sure what I have here


Google translation from the link:

http://translate.google.com/translat...Ds%26prmd%3Dbo

The Assault on Moncada Barracks in 1953

In 1953, the Moncada Barracks housed the Regiment N ° 1 "Maceo" General Martin Diaz Tamayo.

To justify the negative results obtained by the Army and keep the facts were concerned from the standpoint of political and military, Batista and gave the regiment established a "Maceo" of the GR, the "Cross of Honor Maceo" adopted by Decree No. 2168, at a meeting of the Council of Ministers. According to the order, this would be delivered to those officers, noncommissioned officers and soldiers and guards of the police and army who had "defended the stability of the Republic and the principles of dignity and democracy viciously attacked by elements deafened and qualified as poor Cubans who sought to plunge the country into chaos more shameful. "

Batista went on the Moncada barracks, to enforce the award personally to the flag of the regiment, giving some promotions and Orders of Military Merit (OMM) with distinctive red.

[Noor]

Hi Elmar,

Because here isn't any posts and feedback to my query, please feel free and post picture of your award up here as well - maybe someone can help you. I must say - I don't know almost nothing of Cuban awards. This is my second Cuban award in my humble collection

It is pretty hard to find some information about the Cuban ODMs on internet.

[oldflagswanted]

How about Colonial Cuban ???

Any pre Revolution Cuban collectors around? ...

Hello Timo:
How about Colonial Cuban militaria? My collection dates to 1898
and before, including several thousand Havana Arsenal captured
uniform buttons and other items obtained via Bannerman's of NYC.

[Noor]

Thank you Oldflagswanted

Can you maybe help to ID some ribbons please on my last bars?

And here is my new bar! This time metal-enamel one, what is pretty unusal.

Maybe you guys can help to "read it" and also does someone know what is the last two awards?

- Order of Military Merit/Good Conduct, Commander
- Order of Military Merit/Special Service, Commander
- Order of Military Merit /Bravery in Combat, Commander
- The Long Service Medal with 7 stars
- The Armed Forces Merit Medal (1933)
- The National Reconciliation Medal
- ?
- ?

[oldflagswanted]

Cuban rb's ???

Thank you Oldflagswanted
Can you maybe help to ID some ribbons please on my last bars?
...

Noor:
Sorry, rb's are after my Colonial era militaria
experience, so I don't have a clue on the more
recent stuff. But looks like very nice items - bravo!
OFW

[Noor]

Thanks to John, ribbon No. 7 is ID-d as a Order of Carlos Finlay



One more to go... who can help?

Also, if any of you know some good site, etc for study pre Castro period Cuban awards, military or some photos of Cuban senior officers, please share.