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    Here's an interesting group to quite a highly decorated French Army NCO who spent WW2 in the Far East with the Free French Forces (FFL). Not many FFL soldiers were active there. Most were interned by the Japanese. Note the Free French-issue Colonial Medal which is smaller than the the normal medal, with the Extreme-Orient clasp. He was in the Far East from the 1930s, when he won the Combattants' Cross, throughout WW2 to the early 1950s, when French ambitions there ended with the defeat at Dien Bin Phu. He had the right to the 'Indo-Chine' clasp to his WW2 Victory Medal as the undress ribbon bar shows. Indo-Chine would enter the American consciousness as Viet Nam a decade later with the battle of Ia Drang. He probably fought in Algeria too because his Valour Cross wasn't instituted until 1956. Sadly, the file of papers and photographs that was with the medals was thrown in the trash by the grandson because he didn't think anyone would be interested in old papers. Note the little personal touchs, such as the taking of the stars from his ribbon bar for his full-size medals...which he wore as a proud veteran every July 14th and to veterans' reunions. He was with an engineer unit for most of his career which, in the French Army, means that he and his comrades built many of the roads and railways that later generations of GIs would come to know in the 1960s and 1970s. When he wasn't fighting rebels.

    PK
    Last edited by Prosper Keating; 04-13-2002, 12:40 PM.

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    I really like that group. Rare to be able to get the medals and the ribbon bar to.

    I am having a hard time finding the bars to support the french medals. I am looking for a two place, a three place, and a few singles. Can you direct me to someone who can get some for me?

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      #3
      There are a few places in Paris, near the Palais Royale. They also crop up in antique shops and similar places. The suspension bar in the picture came with the group but sadly there was only one. The other was missing. Probably pressed into service by the moronic grandson as an antenna for his car radio.

      I will see about (a) getting some addresses for you for new ones and (b) seeing if we can find you a few old ones. I presume you would prefer to have old ones to go with old medals. Also, the French use a different system these days for attaching medals.

      Prosper

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        #4
        Prosper,
        What is the iconography of the rooster? I've seen it as a mint mark on French coins.

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          #5
          A French friend explained it thus: roosters stand in sh1t and, puff themselves up and crow proudly as if they're the best animals in the best farmyard in the world. Of course, he's a bit disenchanted with «la nouvelle France».

          A German friend suggested that it's because roosters have a belligerent attitude but break and run for it if anyone makes a threatening gesture in their direction.

          But then, he's biased. And he clearly isn't aware of the bloody noses dished out to his countrymen in 1940 by French soldiers at Lille, the Dunkirk defences and several other places.

          Let's ask the French on this forum: François, Denis, Jacques...where are you?

          PK

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            #6
            Maybe something like:
            "Don't try to sh1t in my shoes"

            François
            Collection : http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=807895

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              #7
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              Yes, old ones are of the most interest to me. I khear they are cheap. The problem is hardly anyone wants them. I know of a big time dealer who breaks up medals bars when it is possible to do without hard to the ribbons so he can sell as singles. He says most people don't want bars. That is for French, Finnish, Latvian, etc,....
              He broke up a wonderful Finnish WWII group before I got to it.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Prosper Keating
                He probably fought in Algeria too because his Valour Cross wasn't instituted until 1956.
                If he indeed was there, the fact that he doesn't have the Médaille commémorative des Opérations de Sécurité et de Maintien de l'Ordre (i.e. Algerian Campaign Medal) might help flesh out the history, as it wasn't introduced until 1958.

                --Chris

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Prosper Keating
                  A French friend explained it thus: roosters stand in sh1t and, puff themselves up and crow proudly as if they're the best animals in the best farmyard in the world. Of course, he's a bit disenchanted with «la nouvelle France».

                  A German friend suggested that it's because roosters have a belligerent attitude but break and run for it if anyone makes a threatening gesture in their direction.

                  But then, he's biased. And he clearly isn't aware of the bloody noses dished out to his countrymen in 1940 by French soldiers at Lille, the Dunkirk defences and several other places.

                  Let's ask the French on this forum: François, Denis, Jacques...where are you?

                  PK
                  And don't forget Verdun during WWI. It sometimes annoys me when you get the archetypal Englishman say that we bailed the frogs out twice during the world wars.
                  Having said that they do have a reputation for being a bit cowardly! Apparently a force landed in Wales during the 1800s and were beaten back by the women folk!

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                    #10
                    Apparently Welsh women will scare away any man who hasnt had his 10 pints (now see me duck and run...... )

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                      #11
                      aparently that have green teeth and smoke pipes too...

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