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**mott5ranch** · 03-11-2002, 08:00 AM

Hello Elad,
Welcome to the forum. I don't know what the pin is but it looks familiar to a design I've seen on an airplane. For the life of me I don't know if it was WWI or WWII, allied or axis. That's all I can offer. It's just a guess.

**François SAEZ** · 03-11-2002, 09:20 AM

The best thing to do will be to first check for a WWII emblem (flying unit or Navy) Maybe, it is something else.A scan of the back coud help for the construction.

François

**Newlyn** · 03-11-2002, 01:42 PM

Yes, welcome to the Forum, I don't recognise this as a US Air Force patch. In a previous life many years back I was heavily into Squadron patches, and I never encountered this fellow, in the flesh or in reference. Of course there were hundreds of 'Unofficial' Sq. badges, some were tolerated by rhe top brass, & it may be one of those.

**VerKuilen Ager** · 03-11-2002, 08:29 PM

Neither the date, the maker, the material, the numbering, nor the method of manufacture suggest a U.S. military aviation unit insignia. The first Army squadron pins didn't show up until W.W.I and none were enameled (plus, this design doesn't match any unit of the period). Neither does it match any of those of the postwar era, all of which have been well catalogued by Jay Massaro.

Because of the maker, because it is gold, and because it is numbered, I'd look into it's being a long service pin for a civilian company or a fraternal organization. At the turn of the century, the devil was being used for manufacturers of paint to car radiators. And, while it's probably not connected, around 1900 the "Victory" was a popular brand or model of kitchen stove.

**Bekora** · 03-12-2002, 07:40 AM

Thanks

Thank you Histaria for your post you have definitely cleared up a few things about the pin and to everyone else that posted I appreciated the input.

**jlava** · 03-12-2002, 10:28 AM

This page has something about a elks pin with a mention of:
This was a screw-on and had a date on the back - PAT. Nov 6, 1900 -- and the words "The Victory."
http://members.kingston.net/twocan/PTR_Vol1_No2.htm

don't know if it helps but....
enjoy,
jason

**VerKuilen Ager** · 03-13-2002, 06:56 PM

Good lead jlava! Further chasing suggests that the pin was from the BPOE (Elks) fraternal organization of Elks Township in south Jersey. The guy on the pin is the "Jersey Devil" a local ghost/ demon/ monster/ that's been around since the 1700 or 1800s.

**Bekora** · 03-14-2002, 07:23 AM

Great Detective Work!!

Thanks jLava and Histaria for uncovering the details about this screw backs origin. I appreciate your detective work and thanks again.

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