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**ccj** · 02-08-2019, 06:25 PM

I hesitate to make a comment... but here it goes

I actually like the tunic. I would need to examine it in hand to make a better judgement.

**ww1czechlegion** · 02-08-2019, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by ww1czechlegion View Post
And I had a hunch that you were "not finished....." You can't stop. You absolutely have to have the last word, as another typical trademark of who you are.

And a second hunch that your trademark school boy bullying continues. You're absolutely not able to control it.

And the truth of the matter to everyone here is that you are absolutely unfamiliar with the Junker post-war catalogs. I doubt that you have heard of one, seen one, nor do you own an original catalog, or even a copy of one.

Any more to say, bully boy? What is it now, up to 255 posts of bullying and misquoting?

Sorry Ron, if you thought any of this was directed at you, because it never was. It was directed specifically and only at SkaraBrae in direct response to his posting #28 here: "I had a hunch you had more nothing to add."

R.Beck:
ww1czechlegion, I'm not here to make enemies...just here to learn and gain knowledge.

I understand, and I also appreciate that. And believe it or not, that's all I'm here to do as well. I'm "all-in" with you on that, and not here to make an enemy with you most certainly of all people. In other words, I agree entirely with what you say with this.

R.Beck:
I like the tunic and think it's made impeccably well.

I agree entirely with you that it's made impeccably well. I might add that I think it looks absolutely gorgeous. I hope that this is not a surprise to you. The only part I am not able to fully understand yet is the unknown reason for the construction style behind the previously much discussed button. With my saying this, I am in no way implying the tunic is not real, I am only saying that I don't understand the real reason behind the discussed button. I honestly don't know if it ever will be fully known for sure why it was made this way. That's simply my opinion, and doesn't mean much of anything in the big view of things.

R.Beck:
Most here know my primary collecting focus is Kaiserliche Marine and when I saw this,

Yes, anyone that reads any of the fine postings on this forum you have made and doesn't know that your primary collecting focus is Kaiserliche Marine is totally out of the loop of understanding here. I have always understood since becoming a member that Kaiserliche Marine is your primary focus. I enjoy reading your threads, and am happy for you in your growing excellent collection of this fine aspect of the Imperial German area!

R.Beck:
I just had to have it, but clearly out of my league. I'll let the chips fall where they may.

I can understand your "I just had to have it..." I would have done the same thing. I don't fault you for buying it.

I don't know that I would agree with your saying "but clearly out of my league." It's your primary focus/interest. You've most likely done a ton of research on this aspect of your collecting interest.

As to the "I'll let the chips fall where they may be" statement: I've always viewed you to be a thoughtful, careful, highly intelligent, and highly respected collector with your fine postings on this forum. Nothing in my view has changed here with any of this good opinion of you.

As a side note: I've made 2-significant expensive errors in my 40 year collecting career. One early on, back in 1982 with the expensive (back then) purchase of a fake 3rd Reich Cased Knight's Cross from the old Manion's auction house. I didn't know better back then, and did not exercise my due diligence when I spent $1,200 plus commission, only to find out it was one of the fakes flooding the market at that time. I only knew that I "wanted one", and also that I "trusted the auction house." I let the chips "fall where the may" and lost approximately half my initial investment when selling it in '82, when I had been collecting for approximately 4-years. Manion's refused to refund the purchase price, and I ended up having them re-sell it for me at a loss.

My other significant error was with an expensive Pickelhaube of all things approximately 7 or 8 years ago, something I am supposed to know a lot about and not make mistakes with. It happened because I allowed myself to be blinded by "wanting something greatly" and for "not being careful in fully examining the object before agreeing to buy it."

Wishing you all the very best Ron!

Alan

**R.Beck** · 02-09-2019, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by ww1czechlegion View Post

Sorry Ron, if you thought any of this was directed at you, because it never was. It was directed specifically and only at SkaraBrae in direct response to his posting #28 here: "I had a hunch you had more nothing to add."

I understand, and I also appreciate that. And believe it or not, that's all I'm here to do as well. I'm "all-in" with you on that, and not here to make an enemy with you most certainly of all people. In other words, I agree entirely with what you say with this.

I agree entirely with you that it's made impeccably well. I might add that I think it looks absolutely gorgeous. I hope that this is not a surprise to you. The only part I am not able to fully understand yet is the unknown reason for the construction style behind the previously much discussed button. With my saying this, I am in no way implying the tunic is not real, I am only saying that I don't understand the real reason behind the discussed button. I honestly don't know if it ever will be fully known for sure why it was made this way. That's simply my opinion, and doesn't mean much of anything in the big view of things.

Yes, anyone that reads any of the fine postings on this forum you have made and doesn't know that your primary collecting focus is Kaiserliche Marine is totally out of the loop of understanding here. I have always understood since becoming a member that Kaiserliche Marine is your primary focus. I enjoy reading your threads, and am happy for you in your growing excellent collection of this fine aspect of the Imperial German area!

I can understand your "I just had to have it..." I would have done the same thing. I don't fault you for buying it.

I don't know that I would agree with your saying "but clearly out of my league." It's your primary focus/interest. You've most likely done a ton of research on this aspect of your collecting interest.

As to the "I'll let the chips fall where they may be" statement: I've always viewed you to be a thoughtful, careful, highly intelligent, and highly respected collector with your fine postings on this forum. Nothing in my view has changed here with any of this good opinion of you.

As a side note: I've made 2-significant expensive errors in my 40 year collecting career. One early on, back in 1982 with the expensive (back then) purchase of a fake 3rd Reich Cased Knight's Cross from the old Manion's auction house. I didn't know better back then, and did not exercise my due diligence when I spent $1,200 plus commission, only to find out it was one of the fakes flooding the market at that time. I only knew that I "wanted one", and also that I "trusted the auction house." I let the chips "fall where the may" and lost approximately half my initial investment when selling it in '82, when I had been collecting for approximately 4-years. Manion's refused to refund the purchase price, and I ended up having them re-sell it for me at a loss.

My other significant error was with an expensive Pickelhaube of all things approximately 7 or 8 years ago, something I am supposed to know a lot about and not make mistakes with. It happened because I allowed myself to be blinded by "wanting something greatly" and for "not being careful in fully examining the object before agreeing to buy it."

Wishing you all the very best Ron!

Alan

Thank you for bringing the much needed civility back to the thread as it was starting to go off the rails. Have a good weekend

**kaiserwilhelm2** · 02-10-2019, 12:02 PM