Pickelhaube - opinions

[AlikN]

I would like to get some opinions on this pickelhaube.
Thank you!

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Lettering is a separate piece.

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Condition is not the best .

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[kaiserwilhelm2]

Although not an expert on these older type of pickelhaubes, the helmet itself looks good. I would however be interested in hearing a few more opinions on the Wappen itself.

[Ersatz]

Nice looking helmet i think it is a Garde Grenadier model 1867 ?

[ROBB]

Looks all original Franco Prussian war period . Nice . Rob

[ww1czechlegion]

I believe it is a model 1856 Helmet, long before the Franco-Prussian War.

Notice the cloverleaf spike base, and the extra rivets on the backspine, both of which are more indicative of a Dragoon Helmet, especially the extra rivet on the backspine typically used by Dragoon helmets. It does have the flat chinscales for infantry. I'm trying to find a photo of a Prussian Model 1856 Guard Grenadier Enlisted man's helmet, but not having any luck thus far.

The domed nuts for the screw posts are original to the helmet interior, holding down the spike base. Looks like the back visor trim domed nut has been swapped out years ago for a flat brass nut on the underside of the visor.

What a terrible shame that the back visor has been clipped off on one side of the lower edge. That's really heartbreaking. Otherwise the helmet is in fantastic shape for the age.

The eagle front plate is the old style Guard Grenadier (before they used the guard star on the front plate.) I believe the helmet would have had a round spike base if this grenadier style front plate was worn on it for the model 1867, but I am not sure if the Model 1856 used a cloverleaf spike base, and the extra domed rivet halfway down on the backspine like what the dragoon helmets used. Hopefully Tony will see this and correct me if I'm wrong.

Is the front plate held on by 2-long brass prongs? Or does it have 2-screw posts coming through the forehead area of the helmet which are held held on with domed nuts?

Best Regards,

Alan

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Thank you guys! ...specially Alan for such a detailed opinion.

Front plate has screws and here are the pictures of those nuts.

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