Proper wear for General's tunic

[mravery]

Hey Guys,

Question about different wearing patterns of this style tunic……

From what I have found.. this was worn after 1900….. and in 1909 replaced the earlier pattern as the parade tunic.

What are the proper ‘official’ ways that this could be worn (as it seems I have seen a varying degree of ways).

1)Walking out dress 3
Shoulder knots
Visor cap
Brocade belt
Full medals

2)Walking out dress class 2
Shoulder knots
Spike with spike
Brocade belt
Full medals

3)Walking out dress class 1
Epaulets
Spike with spike
Brocade belt
Full medals

4)Parade dress
Epaulets
Spike with Plume
Sash belt
Aiguillette
Full medals

Have I missed anything….. or was there any period where one style would apply and not another ….. ????

Also.. was there any time where they would have simply worn a ribbon bar ??
Cheers
Mark

[Brian S]

Dunno Mark...

[Daniel Krause]

Brian,

I do not like Your reply.
Mark asked a normal question, so either give him a proper answer or let it be.
There is no need that You insult him.

Nobody complains about "boring" EK threads, nobody complains about "boring" von Etzel-threads; so let it be like it is.

Best regards

Daniel

[Glenn2438]

Orders of Dress

Mark,

the orders of dress would probably be better translated as follows:

Parade Dress: Paradeanzug
Service Dress: Dienstanzug
Working/Office Dress: Kleiner Dienstanzug
Full Dress: Gesellschaftsanzug

only the medal ribbons would normally be worn in Dienstanzug: In the case of the two instances of Dienstanzug, the shoulder boards were worn. The Bekleidungsvorschrift of 1911 does not specifically mention whether medals were worn in Kleiner Dienstanzug.

Regards
Glenn

[landsknechte]

If I'm not mistaken, the ribbon bar that's on the tunic now is the post-1915 style. If it were to have a ribbon bar at all, I believe it should have had one of the much larger trapezoid style ribbon bars.

--Chris

[mravery]

Mark,

the orders of dress would probably be better translated as follows:

Parade Dress: Paradeanzug
Service Dress: Dienstanzug
Working/Office Dress: Kleiner Dienstanzug
Full Dress: Gesellschaftsanzug

only the medal ribbons would normally be worn in Dienstanzug: In the case of the two instances of Dienstanzug, the shoulder boards were worn. The Bekleidungsvorschrift of 1911 does not specifically mention whether medals were worn in Kleiner Dienstanzug.

Regards
Glenn

Hey Glenn

Thanks for this...... So in the 4 different styles..... Was I correct for the accomping items (i.e. visor cap vs spike, belt vs the sash etc) ??

I think there has been one instance where I have seen this in wear.... with the epualets and not belt at all......

Didn't they know that they were supposed to wear these tunics so as when collectors 90+ years later had them..... that we knew the proper wear

Chris,

I agree..... the picture I have posted was from the seller who just had something 'pinned' on the tunic.... Once I get a torso cut down (it's a small tunic)... I'll post some better pics.

Cheers
Mark

[mravery]

Some pics of different wear of this tunic

[mravery]

Full dress

[mravery]

Another

[mravery]

full dress

[mravery]

Full dress

[mravery]

Now.... as service dress

[mravery]

Anther..service dress..... no belt..... spike with spike.... full medals

[Glenn2438]

Orders of Dress

Mark,

normally:

Parade Dress: Paradeanzug - helmet with plume
Service Dress: Dienstanzug - helmet with spike/ball
Working/Office Dress: Kleiner Dienstanzug - helmet with spike/ball or cap
Full Dress: Gesellschaftsanzug - helmet with spike/ball

Regards
Glenn

[mravery]

Mark,

normally:

Parade Dress: Paradeanzug - helmet with plume
Service Dress: Dienstanzug - helmet with spike/ball
Working/Office Dress: Kleiner Dienstanzug - helmet with spike/ball or cap
Full Dress: Gesellschaftsanzug - helmet with spike/ball

Regards
Glenn

Hey Glenn

Thanks for the info.......... I have one additional question.... would they have ever worn this tunic with just a ribbon bar... (i.e. perhaps in the Kleiner wear only )... or is this not outlined anywhere ?

Cheers
Mark