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    #1

    Stielhangranate 1915 Percussion for Review

    Hello,

    I have the opportunity to acquire this grenade, and would like opinions on it.

    It is Dewat.

    I realize that it has rust/pitting and corrosion issues, and I believe the color of the metal on the can and other metal fittings has been refinished sometime in the past.

    I also realize that this model of grenade is very difficult to find, and is absent in most collections.

    I'm open to hearing all opinions.

    Also, can anyone who has knowledge on the value of one of these send me a private message to let me know what this one would be worth? Thanks in advance!

    All the Best,

    Alan
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    more pics of stick grenade
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      More photos.
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        more photos.
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        Last edited by ww1czechlegion; 09-18-2012, 08:58 PM.

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          almost finished.
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            Last Photo. Finished!
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              #7
              Another nice one Alan
              They could also swap the head for the M13 kugelgranate.

              Eric

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                #8
                Alan,

                Bunches of these were unearthed in France in the 1970s. I bought one at a French show for the equivalent of $12.50. I even brought it back in my luggage! Those were the days.

                They come in various degrees of decay, mostly with metal parts being eaten away or just rusted. They were cleaned up, but I don't think any major restoration was done.

                Like everything good that is found in multiples, they are now all gobbled up. It was a short-lived pattern, so I suspect anyone having one to sell today would want more than a nice M17 stick grenade would cost. How much more is the question.

                Chip

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                  #9
                  Hey Alan,
                  I think you should pass on this one and send me the seller's name and contact information.
                  The Kugel used on these was different from the M1913 Kugel, the head for the percussion Kugle had a larger opening, and the end of the handle was different as well.
                  Best
                  Gus

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gustaf B View Post
                    Hey Alan,
                    I think you should pass on this one and send me the seller's name and contact information.
                    The Kugel used on these was different from the M1913 Kugel, the head for the percussion Kugle had a larger opening, and the end of the handle was different as well.
                    Best
                    Gus
                    They used a brass adapter but I won't quibble old timer

                    Eric

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                      #11
                      Hello all.
                      I dont think these are all that rare. I myself own 2 of these and one with the M13 Ball-head. I posted them here:
                      http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=554870
                      The Poppenberg system identifies the percussion grenades at first sight.
                      By the way, one did cost me 180€ and the other 230€ (the M13-head with replacemenet wooden stick). So if you look a bit around there are a few german vendors offering these and sometimes you can find these in german e-gu. or "hidden" in french/belgian e-ba.. they call them "défence de tranché" or "vestige militaire" etc.

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                        Hello all.
                        I dont think these are all that rare. I myself own 2 of these and one with the M13 Ball-head. I posted them here:
                        http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=554870
                        The Poppenberg system identifies the percussion grenades at first sight.
                        By the way, one did cost me 180€ and the other 230€ (the M13-head with replacemenet wooden stick). So if you look a bit around there are a few german vendors offering these and sometimes you can find these in german e-gu. or "hidden" in french/belgian e-ba.. they call them "défence de tranché" or "vestige militaire" etc. by ubisacco
                        Well Lucky You Indeed...., that's nice to know.

                        I would buy these all day long at 180 Euros, even at 230 Euros each if I could find them here in the USA! So would every forum member who lives here in the USA as well, I would imagine.

                        Part of the problem for collectors after 9/11/2001 is that it is very tricky to ship these in the mail, (especially overseas) with the the postal service and airlines frowning on these being shipped. I'm not saying they can't get through by being mailed, but it is a whole lot harder now with the x-rays and security at customs, etcetera. I myself wouldn't want to go through the risk of mailing one overseas, or trying to buy one from Europe, and having it shipped over here. I don't want someone from Homeland Security or the FBI or ATF showing up on my doorstep.

                        For every 100 or more of the Model 1917 I have seen for sale in the USA over the past 10 years, I've seen maybe one or two of these for sale in the USA.

                        The model 1917's are common in the USA, partly because the US Military did not enter WW1 until April of 1917, after the Model 1915's had been phased out. That explains part of the rarity in the USA of finding one of these, compared to the Model 1917.

                        Best Regards,

                        Alan

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                          Hi Alan,

                          There comes a point where you come across something you want and you know you are not going to see it again. So what do you do? Wait for the next one that you will never see? I would buy this in a second and worry about how much I paid later. As Chip said, they are all dug and have some level of corrosion, that's just they way it is for a consumable product like this. Count yourself very fortunate to be able to be in a position to obtain one. I would love to find one of these and would not hesitate for a moment.

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