Nice fieldgrey M10 cavalry shoulderboard

[mike ross]

Chris
You are are correct, I was referring to the strap that you described, not the one that started the thread. It is a 15th draqgoon.
The straps that are in the photograph would appear to be M1915 examples, with the possable exception of the 252 which may be a M1907.
They are from the 15th Infantry Regt., 8th Jager Btn., 168th Infantry Regt., and the 108th Schutzen Regt.
Most M1915 infanty straps were piped in white, but a few like the 168th maintained their traditional piping colors
I hope this helps
Mike

[90th Light]

Chris
You are are correct, I was referring to the strap that you described, not the one that started the thread. It is a 15th draqgoon.
The straps that are in the photograph would appear to be M1915 examples, with the possable exception of the 252 which may be a M1907.
They are from the 15th Infantry Regt., 8th Jager Btn., 168th Infantry Regt., and the 108th Schutzen Regt.
Most M1915 infanty straps were piped in white, but a few like the 168th maintained their traditional piping colors
I hope this helps
Mike

Thank you Mike, very interesting about IR 168.

Would IR 252 have been in existance much before 1914 ? My pre-war listing of IR's ends about IR 182 or IR 187.

Did only SR 108 have black piping ? I have these 108's both with piping and with out.

In fact I have a lot of straps without piping. Are the ones without piping, a war-time economy model ?

Many thanks for the help,

Chris

[Chip M]

Wow, sorry for the confusion. I misread Chris's post. Of course, Michael is correct about the pioneer identification on the described strap.

The RIR.252 was formed at the troop training ground at Ohrdruf on December 29, 1914.

There were other units with black piping, including the Garde Schützen Bataillon, the Saxon Karabinier Regiment, several dragoon regiments, two Jäger zu Pferde regiments, the Leib Kürassier Regiment Nr.1, etc..

The straps without piping were introduced in January of 1915. They came in several varieties, a field gray version for the tunic, a lighter overcoat gray for the 1915, so-called Ersatz overcoats and in gray green for those units that wore the gray green tunics (Jäger, Schützen, Radfahr units, Mountain MG units, Stabsordonnanzen, etc.). This simplification was done both to save on material and to save time in the manufacturing process.

Chip