German M18 Camo - Need Help

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After many years of wondering, I am seeking help re this M18 Camo. The helmet is stamped E.T.64 on inside rim and R1584 in the inside dome. Is the camo original authentic? Any thoughts or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Robert Gerard

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[zook]

Gerard -
I look forward to hearing from the more seasoned helmet collectors. I recently started placing a fair amount of my collecting focus on these helmets and based on what I have learned (and chatting with others at SOS), this helmet gives me great pause. I'm not fond of the patterns (although patterns greatly vary!) , it appears the rivets have been replaced, and of course liner is missing), and there are inconsistencies with chipping (no chipping and wear in areas one would expect to see it). Again - I look forward to other posts on this - Thanks for sharing, Dan

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Gerard -

I look forward to hearing from the more seasoned helmet collectors. I recently started placing a fair amount of my collecting focus on these helmets and based on what I have learned (and chatting with others at SOS), this helmet gives me great pause. I'm not fond of the patterns (although patterns greatly vary!) , it appears the rivets have been replaced, and of course liner is missing), and there are inconsistencies with chipping (no chipping and wear in areas one would expect to see it). Again - I look forward to other posts on this - Thanks for sharing, Dan

I m not a fan of this camo too

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[olboy]

The more obvious is it's interior which has had a coat of paint.
The exterior.....well it's not the pattern that concerns me but rather some of the later work like that green touch up around one of the rivets.
Just by looking over it it raises a lot of eye brow lifting but some of these need to be in your hand for a more serious and educated opinion.

[Forssmann]

There is some traces of light brown in the interior, indicating the camo exterior was painted on AFTER the interior was painted black. Many of the helmets that I see that have interiors painted are done because to cover up the advanced rusting. In my opinion, this helmet was once a rusted mess, someone painted the entire thing black, including the interior. Eventually, someone added some rivets, slapped a camo paint job on it, and tried to turn a $50 relic into an overpriced fake.

[Willi Z.]

It's not an era camo. As mentioned, it was painted over a rusty relic. Many were apparently done from battlefield pick-ups for the tourist trade years ago, or it could be more recent.

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Thanks everyone for the information about my helmet. Disappointed but at least now I know it's now a good one.

Robert Gerard