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    #1

    EK2 maker and opinion

    Hi everybody and a happy new year!

    Need you opinion about this cross and help to identify this EK2 maker.
    Its have magnetic core. The core is little loose, can move it a bit up and down.
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    It's an original cross with a early style cast core.
    That's the good news.

    This style core was used by several different makers and because
    the makers mark is unreadable, assigning a maker to it will be difficult.
    I would suggest looking through our database thread and try to match
    the frame characteristics to known examples. Look here----
    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=263078

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      #3
      Thank you for your replay Greg.

      Is it possible this cross from KO?

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        #4
        Any other ideas about the maker?

        I looked on the database and tried to match the cross, to be honest i don't know what to look for. Should i compare the core or frame, what points on the frame or core can tell the maker?

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          #5
          IMO, KO is not one of the potential makers of this cross.
          Ralph.

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            #6
            Originally posted by falk_1 View Post
            Any other ideas about the maker?

            I looked on the database and tried to match the cross, to be honest i don't know what to look for. Should i compare the core or frame, what points on the frame or core can tell the maker?
            When I start trying to identify a cross, the first thing I compare is the cores.
            That IMO is the easiest place to start. The style of the crown, the shape of the
            "W" , the font style of the date. --- Many makers used the the same cores so
            this will only get you part way there.

            Next is the frame. Is the beaded edge thick or thin? (thick in the case of your cross)
            Does the frame have a hump at the top where the small ring mounts?
            I especially pay attention to the inner corners. The pattern of the beading where
            the corners come together can be like a finger print.

            Even with good pictures to compare with, more crosses go unidentified
            than those that do get assigned a maker. the majority were unmarked,
            beading get worn down, pictures can be out of focus. While it's interesting
            knowing the maker, sometimes we have to be satisfied with knowing it's
            an original cross. A piece of 100 year old history.
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            Last edited by gregM; 01-05-2020, 12:21 AM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by gregM View Post
              When I start trying to identify a cross, the first thing I compare is the cores.
              That IMO is the easiest place to start. The style of the crown, the shape of the
              "W" , the font style of the date. --- Many makers used the the same cores so
              this will only get you part way there.

              Next is the frame. Is the beaded edge thick or thin? (thick in the case of your cross)
              Does the frame have a hump at the top where the small ring mounts?
              I especially pay attention to the inner corners. The pattern of the beading where
              the corners come together can be like a finger print.

              Even with good pictures to compare with, more crosses go unidentified
              than those that do get assigned a maker. the majority were unmarked,
              beading get worn down, pictures can be out of focus. While it's interesting
              knowing the maker, sometimes we have to be satisfied with knowing it's
              an original cross. A piece of 100 year old history.
              Very good explanation.....I totally agree

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                #8
                Thank you again Greg,
                I want to use your patience and knowledge to ask,
                This style core was used by several different makers
                Can you list the possible makers who used to make this style of iron cross?

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                  #9
                  OK, I just went through our database thread maker by maker and compared
                  core styles. Something you could have easily done yourself.

                  IMO this is an early cast iron core. It probably would have been made
                  one of the iron foundries and then distributed to different makers for
                  assembly.

                  These makers at one point or another used this style core.
                  (Take a close look at HB) You have the cross in hand, so you should
                  best equipped to compare close-up frame details.

                  D
                  ED
                  H
                  HB
                  M-IVI ( B.H. Mayer)
                  N
                  PS800
                  KO
                  S-W
                  WuS

                  Please bare in mind that our datebase is far from complete and is not
                  the "be all-end all" guide to crosses. You might try reaching out to anyone
                  that would have the Wernitz 2 vol. guide to iron crosses. ( I do not have
                  a copy)
                  Last edited by gregM; 01-05-2020, 11:08 AM.

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                    #10
                    I learn more and more each day, have no knowledge about the iron crosses and had none in my collection before. A few months before, i started to be more interested about these crosses and now i have 4 already in my collection.
                    Maybe i need to buy some books.

                    Thank you again.
                    Falk.

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