Bavarian Commemorative Pilot Badge

[Wartime Collectables]

Nicely struck but I don't believe that flat catch is ever correct? Your knowledge appreciated!

[Don D.]

Not a period piece.

[Wartime Collectables]

Not a period piece.

Thanks for the confirmation! Always interested to know more detail. If the catch were different it would be a dang nice looking badge.

[Jelle M.]

It's a simple fake.
Detail is terrible... look at the bird and the crown.
Also the hinge and catch are a giveaway.

[Wartime Collectables]

It's a simple fake.
Detail is terrible... look at the bird and the crown.
Also the hinge and catch are a giveaway.

Nothing is a simple fake. Someone, somewhere made it and the more knowledge we have the better armed we are.

[Ferg 1]

Looks like a 57- er style pin and catch. The badge itself is doubtful. Proper period examples of this badge ( and they are rare) are always with a separately soldered on eagle . The wreath normally ( as per pollath ) has ‘V’ shaped cutouts to accommodate the wings and therefore make a neater solder joint . This looks cast to me .
Ferg

[Wartime Collectables]

Looks like a 57- er style pin and catch. The badge itself is doubtful. Proper period examples of this badge ( and they are rare) are always with a separately soldered on eagle . The wreath normally ( as per pollath ) has ‘V’ shaped cutouts to accommodate the wings and therefore make a neater solder joint . This looks cast to me .
Ferg

Thank you! Excellent information!

[Wartime Collectables]

Proper period examples of this badge ( and they are rare) are always with a separately soldered on eagle . The wreath normally ( as per pollath ) has ‘V’ shaped cutouts to accommodate the wings and therefore make a neater solder joint.
Ferg

I assume this would be true of the Prussian version as well?

[Ferg 1]

Generally speaking the Junckers etc ... do have a separate eagles ,the Meybauer you show was a all in one strike with the commemorative badges
Ferg

[Hagrid]

I like the unmarked Meybauer you show us here...
The threadstarter badge is a poor copy, though.
Regards
Hagrid

[Wartime Collectables]

I guess I should ask about the third maker....

[Hagrid]

Unfortunately this is not an original Poellath badge - the design of the bow and the lower building are (some) of the give-aways, the MM is not correct as well...
Regard
Hagrid

[Wartime Collectables]

Unfortunately this is not an original Poellath badge - the design of the bow and the lower building are (some) of the give-aways, the MM is not correct as well...
Regard
Hagrid

Wondered about the detail ... could you post a clear pic of a good hallmark for reference? THANKS

[VtwinVince]

To muddy the waters on Poellath badges, the hallmarks are not consistent throughout the production period.

[Hagrid]

Wondered about the detail ... could you post a clear pic of a good hallmark for reference? THANKS

There are two accepted variations (see pictures, quoted from Stephens book) at least.
The "800" could be substituted by "Silber" - that´s legit as well...
Note that it´s actually 3 separate punches, each applied in a line of it´s own!
Regard
Hagrid