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**Gew44** · 01-01-2019, 05:29 AM

Somebody known if the combo EK2 + FA Cross is not common ?

Thanks

**Green** · 01-01-2019, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by Gew44 View Post

Somebody known if the combo EK2 + FA Cross is not common ?

Thanks

IMO it is common. A bar with the FA + clasp is not so common IMO.

In rough lines.......when a sitizen of a state was awarded with the Iron Cross second class he also received a state decoration. They wore them next to the Iron Cross. Iron Cross first and next the state medal. Sometimes the State medal first.

**Gew44** · 01-01-2019, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by Green View Post

IMO it is common. A bar with the FA + clasp is not so common IMO.

In rough lines.......when a sitizen of a state was awarded with the Iron Cross second class he also received a state decoration. They wore them next to the Iron Cross. Iron Cross first and next the state medal. Sometimes the State medal first.

Heel erg bedankt / Thanks a lot for explanation Green

A friend of mine told me that :

"If the FA cross or bar is no magnetic they are made during '20 or '30."
This could help to identify the correct era ?

**Green** · 01-01-2019, 07:51 AM

Fatto felice / You're welcome

**Green** · 01-01-2019, 08:07 AM

Just use the search word "Vor dem Feinde " in this forum and you find a lot of interessting threads about the clasp

**Gew44** · 01-01-2019, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by Green View Post

Just use the search word "Vor dem Feinde " in this forum and you find a lot of interessting threads about the clasp

Thanks Green I will do

**VtwinVince** · 01-01-2019, 02:38 PM

The 'Vor dem Feinde' clasp is not a typical colour, usually these are blackened iron.

**tompress** · 01-01-2019, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by Gew44 View Post

Heel erg bedankt / Thanks a lot for explanation Green

A friend of mine told me that :

"If the FA cross or bar is no magnetic they are made during '20 or '30."
This could help to identify the correct era ?

The whole bar was made in 1934 or later beacuse it includes Ehrenkreuz des Weltkriegs (called Hindenburg Cross), instituted 1934. But with using original, earlier awarded decorations. Only the clasp "Vor dem Feinde" looks to be replacement from the 1930's

**Gew44** · 01-02-2019, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by tompress View Post

The whole bar was made in 1934 or later beacuse it includes Ehrenkreuz des Weltkriegs (called Hindenburg Cross), instituted 1934. But with using original, earlier awarded decorations. Only the clasp "Vor dem Feinde" looks to be replacement from the 1930's

Thanks a lot.

The spange it's appear not iron but bronze/gilded color, the artificial light changed the reflex.

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