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    PLEASE HELP, Konteradmiral Walter Isendahl: Medal Bar ID

    Neck order (From top to bottom)
    - Kgl. Preuß. Kronen-Orden II. Klasse mit Schwertern
    - Komtur I. Klasse des Kgl. Württembg. Friedrichs-Ordens mit Schwertern
    - Finn. Freiheitskreuz I. Klasse mit Schwertern

    Medal Bar : 13 medals
    - 1914 EK II
    - Kgl. Preuß. Roter Adler-Orden IV. Klasse
    - Kgl. Preuß. Kronen-Orden III. Klasse
    - Braunschweigisches Kriegsverdienstkreuz II. Klasse
    - Hanseatenkreuz Hamburg
    - Hanseatenkreuz Bremen
    - k.u.k. Österr. Orden der Eisernen Krone III Klasse mit der Kriegsdekoration
    - k.u.k. Österr. Militär-Verdienstkreuz III Klasse mit der Kriegsdekoration
    - Round medal, perhaps the Finn. Erinnerungsmedaille des Freiheitskrieg 1918 ??? (notice the clasp above it!) (since he has the Finn. Freiheitskreuz I. Klasse mit Schwertern)
    - ??? (perhaps one of his 2 Russian awards?)
    - Kgl. Preuß. Kaiser Wilhelm-Erinnerungsmedaille 1897 ???
    - China Denkmünze in Bronze or Kolonial Denkmünze ??? (he was in Tsingtau, China for three months in 1898) The ribbon above this medal has straight vertical lines, I took this photo with a phone so it doesn't show the lines, but I can see the lines when looking at this photo in the book.
    - RK II. Klasse des Kgl. Sächs. Albrechts-Ordens

    Here is the full list of his awards from Rangliste 1914 and 1918:

    - 1914 EK I
    - 1914 EK II
    - Kgl. Preuß. Kaiser Wilhelm-Erinnerungsmedaille 1797-1897 (“Centenarmedaille”)
    - Russischer St. Annen-Orden III. Klasse
    - Russischer St. Stanislaus-Orden II. Klasse
    - Kgl. Preuß. Roter Adler-Orden IV. Klasse
    - Kgl. Preuß. Kronen-Orden III. Klasse
    - RK II. Klasse des Kgl. Sächs. Albrechts-Ordens
    - Komtur I. Klasse des Kgl. Württembg. Friedrichs-Ordens mit Schwertern
    - Braunschweigisches Kriegsverdienstkreuz II. Klasse
    - Braunschweigisches Kriegsverdienstkreuz I. Klasse
    - Türkischer Eiserner Halbmond
    - Kgl. Preuß. Dienstauszeichnungskreuz
    - Hanseatenkreuz Hamburg

    Presumably he also had:

    - Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer

    - Finn. Freiheitskreuz I. Klasse mit Schwertern (3rd medal around the neck)

    - Finn. Erinnerungsmedaille des Freiheitskrieg 1918 (because he recieved the Finn. Freiheitskreuz I. Klasse mit Schwertern, also I don't know if he's wearing it on the photo)

    - Kgl. Preuß. Kronen-Orden II. Klasse mit Schwertern (around the neck, first medal)

    - Hanseatenkreuz Bremen (not listed in the 1918 Rangliste, but perhaps he recieved it after 1918, we can't check because he retired in 1920)

    It seems he didn't mount the 2 Russian awards he had and also the Kgl. Preuß. Dienstauszeichnungskreuz?

    I can try and take a better photo from the book if needed.

    And please do correct me if I made any mistakes!

    Thanks!
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    #2
    Here is a better photo.

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      #3
      the last positions are not to ID (in my opinion)

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        #4
        I don't suppose, that there is Braunschweiger Kriegsverdienstkreuz on postion 4. This cross is dark - like 1st class under the EK1. Also its ribbon is dark. May be the Saxon RK of Albert Order is on place 4? (not at the last position).

        Yes, the Finnish Medal of Liberation War 1918 is possible (this one with clasp)

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          #5
          Originally posted by tompress View Post
          Yes, the Finnish Medal of Liberation War 1918 is possible (this one with clasp)
          I agree, most likely the SYD-FINLAND clasp.
          Last edited by Dansson; 02-25-2018, 01:59 AM.

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            Originally posted by tompress View Post
            I don't suppose, that there is Braunschweiger Kriegsverdienstkreuz on postion 4. This cross is dark - like 1st class under the EK1. Also its ribbon is dark. May be the Saxon RK of Albert Order is on place 4? (not at the last position).
            Well, that is also possible, but the Braunschweiger Kriegsverdienstkreuz II. Klasse and the RK II. Klasse des Kgl. Sächs. Albrechts-Ordens are confirmed in his Ranglisten and they must be mounted on his medal bar.
            I am more interested if that is the China Denkmünze in Bronze or Kolonial Denkmünze.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Grossadmiral View Post
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              I am more interested if that is the China Denkmünze in Bronze or Kolonial Denkmünze.
              Ribbon with narrow stripes indicates China DM

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                #8
                Do you think it's the China DM in Bronze or Silber?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Grossadmiral View Post
                  Do you think it's the China DM in Bronze or Silber?
                  China DM existed in Bronze for combatants and Steel (not Silver), for non-combatants. I suppose, this gentleman should have been awarded with a combatant version

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Grossadmiral View Post
                    It seems he didn't mount the 2 Russian awards he had?
                    At a certain point it was forbidden to wear bars with previously earned Russian decorations and these were unmounted from bars. I can't remember the exact date but it was certainly true by the time Russia and Germany went to war against one another.
                    Best regards,
                    Streptile

                    Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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