Imperial heraldry???

[Tiger 1]

Hi guys....
Here's an heraldic crest on an early TR dagger crossguard...yeah, I know TR but the crest is Imperial era.
Any ideas on who this crest belongs too or perhaps where I could look?
Thanks in advance.
Tony

[kaiserwilhelm2]

Looks like a family crest - which is timeless at least from the moment it was created and so long as the family is still alive; so it is not necessarily an imperial crest.

You might post it here for someone to ID it: http://www.heraldik-wappen.de/index....2c36fb9df26be6

[Tiger 1]

Thanks Kaiser Wilhelm.

I appreciate the link.
I know it's not an Imperial crest but one from that era.
One of the small things that makes collecting so interesting.

All the best.

Tony

[kaiserwilhelm2]

Thanks Kaiser Wilhelm.

I appreciate the link.
I know it's not an Imperial crest but one from that era.
One of the small things that makes collecting so interesting.

All the best.

Tony

The Imperial era was only from 1871-1918. That coat of arms may be from the 1300s if it is really old in that case it would date long before the imperial era. It is even possible that it dates from after the Imperial era as even in the Third Reich new family coat of arms were registered. A very well known example are the coats of arms that were designed for the SS-Obergruppenfuehrer (if they did not have a family crest already - which most did not).

[oldflagswanted]

griffin and a tree coa ???

... heraldic crest on an early TR dagger crossguard...
Tony

Hello Tony:
Looks similar to the coat of arms of Greifswald, Germany,

in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, which has a griffin
and a tree - reflects a legend about the town's 13th
century founding.
OFW

[kaiserwilhelm2]

Hello Tony:
Looks similar to the coat of arms of Greifswald, Germany,

in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, which has a griffin
and a tree - reflects a legend about the town's 13th
century founding.
OFW

A Greif is quite a common heraldic animal and can be found on many coat of arms.

[tompress]

For me this animal looks as drake, and the plant in lower field is thistle. Therefore symbols of Wales and Scotland

But if German, that could be something from Pommern or Mekclenburg:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_..._mit_dem_Greif

greetings
Tomasz

[Gary B]

Tony,

Is that an ivory grip?

Gary B

[gregM]

I nice bit of engraving

[Tiger 1]

Thanks guys.
I really appreciate the input.
Yes it has an ivory grip. Among other things this is the 'Eisenkopf' that was extensively discussed on the old GDC forum about a decade or so ago. The name stems from the fact that the hilt fittings and scabbard are constructed out of iron or mild steel and are magnetic. At that time frame the use of iron fittings for Heer daggers was an unknown quantity that I accidentally discovered with an errant magnet on my desk. The bruhaha back then was phenomenal and interesting to say the least.
Alcoso, the maker of this dagger, is known to have used iron based fittings during the lean times of WWI and also experimented with iron early on during the TR era when using strategic materials like brass and nickle was being curtailed.
Items like this make collecting the addiction that it can be.
Tony

[Tiger 1]

Here's a couple of pics of the hilt.
I know they are not strictly Imperial but they are germain to the this thread. Thanks for indulging me on this.
Enjoy!

[Gary B]

Tony,

That is a really beautiful dagger - book worthy! Thanks for posting the full pictures.

Gary B