Nice Saxoinia Medal Bar

[Baltic]

Hi Gents,
check out this nice Medal Bar !
Regards
Baltic

[Brian R]

Great one, and interesting to see a Lubeck cross at last place on a Saxon bar.

[Gary B]

A very brave and proud Saxon (as shown by "improper" order of precedence) for sure!

Gary B

[kaiserwilhelm2]

A very brave and proud Saxon (as shown by "improper" order of precedence) for sure!

Gary B

Propper pre-1933 style

Fantastic bar!

[Heran]

Amazing Medal Bar, a real Beauty.

And it was typical Bavarian and Saxonian to put their Medals and Ordens ahead the Prussian (and other States) ones.

Best Regards

Antonio

[Dansson]

A very imperessive bar with 5 gallantry decorations, and consisting only of them!
Nice!

It has the very typhical "Saxon style" mounting. A style I've noticed is very typhical Saxon bars from World War 1.

[Sevrin]

exc

Beautiful bar indeed!

[Don D.]

Very nice bar. One can only wonder about his service.

[Gary B]

Propper pre-1933 style

Fantastic bar!

I believe the regulations were that the EK2 took precedence over all other state awards, hence my comment. One does see where soldiers, proud of their state, chose to place their state award(s) ahead of the Prussian EK2 in defiance of the regulations.

Gary B

[kaiserwilhelm2]

I believe the regulations were that the EK2 took precedence over all other state awards, hence my comment. One does see where soldiers, proud of their state, chose to place their state award(s) ahead of the Prussian EK2 in defiance of the regulations.

Gary B

No that is not the case. Wuerttemberg, Sachsen and Bavaria medals should come first for soldiers from those lands prior to 1933. The EK 1914 is a Prussian order, not a national German one (that was only so with the EK 1939 during WWII). What you do see is that bars that were made during the Third Reich the EK 1914 takes precedence due to the fact that Germany now has become a unitary state (and no longer is a federation) and the EK has become to be seen as THE German award taking priority over others and symbolizing national, unitary unity which is the case for the EK 1939 but was not so for the EK 1914 prior to the Third Reich.

[Dansson]

No that is not the case. Wuerttemberg, Sachsen and Bavaria medals should come first for soldiers from those lands prior to 1933. The EK 1914 is a Prussian order, not a national German one (that was only so with the EK 1939 during WWII). What you do see is that bars that were made during the Third Reich the EK 1914 takes precedence due to the fact that Germany now has become a unitary state (and no longer is a federation) and the EK has become to be seen as THE German award taking priority over others and symbolizing national, unitary unity which is the case for the EK 1939 but was not so for the EK 1914 prior to the Third Reich.

I agree.

I do belive to have a list of Sachsonian and Bavarian medal bar order regulations.

[Brian R]

It has the very typhical "Saxon style" mounting. A style I've noticed is very typhical Saxon bars from World War 1.

This bar immediately reminded me of this one I used to own. Very similar mounting style (but different backs).

[Dansson]

This bar immediately reminded me of this one I used to own. Very similar mounting style (but different backs).

Very nice Brian!

That's also a nice Saxon style mount in my opinion. I tend to see these Saxon bars with oblong semi straight ribbon mountings with the outer edges on the bar a bit negative in angle. Besides a few other deatils.

I actually don't think I've seen these things and details combined on any other bars than Saxon, which makes me belive they are quite typhical Saxon or a certain "bar mounter"

[Gary B]

No that is not the case. Wuerttemberg, Sachsen and Bavaria medals should come first for soldiers from those lands prior to 1933. The EK 1914 is a Prussian order, not a national German one (that was only so with the EK 1939 during WWII). What you do see is that bars that were made during the Third Reich the EK 1914 takes precedence due to the fact that Germany now has become a unitary state (and no longer is a federation) and the EK has become to be seen as THE German award taking priority over others and symbolizing national, unitary unity which is the case for the EK 1939 but was not so for the EK 1914 prior to the Third Reich.

I stand corrected...thanks for the update, kaiserwilhelm2 and Dansson. I had been told or read that the EK2 took precedence but it appears that info was incorrect. I looked thru my files of medal bars and indeed noticed that bars with both EK2 and other state awards that had the EK2 as the first medal also had the Hindenburg Cross (post 33, as you stated).

I assume then that pre-33 awards with both EK2 and other state award that have the EK2 in the 1st position were Prussian recipients who had received other state awards.

Gary B

[kaiserwilhelm2]

I assume then that pre-33 awards with both EK2 and other state award that have the EK2 in the 1st position were Prussian recipients who had received other state awards.

Yes that is so.