Bavarian and prussian buckle fake or good

[Mogdala]

Hi Guys,

What are you feelings about these 2 buckles?

Thanks in advance

[Mogdala]

2.

[morel5000]

The one with 3 vertical solderings is a fake.

If the medallion from the first is not centred verticallt I don't give it much chance also...

[Chip M]

I believe that both are known fakes, partially due to the prong bar style, which was not used before 1916. Also, the way the prongs are cut is wrong.

Chip

[Mogdala]

Thank you both