Request for Assistance With Document

[Clayton]

Gentlemen;

What do we have here? Any help is very much appreciated.

This is a folding portfolio style document, measuring 13 inches x 8.25 inches. We cannot read the German hand written script.

Best regards to everyone,

Clay

[Clayton]

Another Photograph

[streptile]

It purports to be a document awarding the Black Eagle Order but I have serious doubts about its authenticity.

[streptile]

Here is an example of the handwritten (lines 2 and 3) text as it should look, the seal, and the signature.

[Brian L.]

I believe this is an original blank document that has been filled in with spurious details. The Wilhelm signature is a poor attempt, the calligraphy is messy and amateurish, the wax seal is bogus and above all, it's highly unlikely that a lowly Kapitän zur See, unless of royal birth would receive the Order of the Black Eagle.

[Brian R]

Yes, the signature was "drawn".

[Montgomery Burns]

besides,,,, very good fakes on the marked .

I have also found medal documents ,,

in period ( 1880 /1900 ) medal books ,,,smaller reprints as example of how an document looks .

they to,,,, can be mistaken as original ....or used .

my opinion ,,,a document specialist from a museum has to look at it .
just posting it on a forum is not sufficient enough ,,in my opinion .

here is one example of a book copy,,,,,,,,,, but fore a different medal .....5.9 inch to 8.18 inch

regards kay

[Chris Boonzaier]

Gentlemen;

What do we have here? Any help is very much appreciated.

This is a folding portfolio style document, measuring 13 inches x 8.25 inches. We cannot read the German hand written script.

Best regards to everyone,

Clay

That is 100% bad.

[Claudius]

That is 100% bad.

The paper is real.

[Chris Boonzaier]

The paper is real.

Toilet paper is real paper as well ;-)

[Gerdan]

The handwritten text (handwriting) is very poor. A secretary close to the Emperor should have had a much better handwriting and the signature of Wilhelm II is also very poor.


Gerdan

[Hagrid]

(...) and the signature of Wilhelm II is also very poor.
Gerdan

Thats because it isn't the signature of Wilhelm II ....

Regards
Hagrid

[Clayton]

Guys;

Thank you very much for the insightful comments. All are very much appreciated.

Best regards,

Clay