Feldgrau Mutze

[PaulChep]

I am considering this purchase. Any opinions are welcome.

[PaulChep]

close up of cockade

close up

[PaulChep]

close up of inside and markings

close up

[PaulChep]

Any help

Any help?

[Dave Mosher]

Paul

This mutz may be original, but definately not bavarian. The bavarians only had three clothing and equipment depots (BA), so at a minimum, the bottom bavarian cockade is wrong for this depot. Also, the prongback cockades weren't typically used on the porkpies although I'm sure some were used.

Dave

[PaulChep]

Thanks

I am glad I did this post prior to bidding on the item. I will be making this a habit from now on so I don;t get burned.

[Tony & Kaiser]

I am glad I did this post prior to bidding on the item.

It is still a very nice Feldmütze Paul. As Dave said, the Kokarde is off a Schirmmütze, but I see correct issued Kokarden with the twin sewing holes for sale quite often. To me, this is a great cap in good condition with a very desirable Hessen Armee Korps stamp.

As with any cap, tunic, helmet with BA stamps, check the Kokarde, straps, or what-ever and compare it to the Armee-Korps to make sure it makes sense. Tony

[PaulChep]

marks

Dave, Tony,

Both of you seem to know which markings to with which armee. Can we maybe put together a list? If you want to send your information to me and I will comple a lost that is fine.

[Tony & Kaiser]

Both of you seem to know which markings to with which armee. Can we maybe put together a list? If you want to send your information to me and I will comple a lost that is fine

Paul, for a list of Armee-Koprs, here is a link for AK on Glenn's excellent site, "A Pocket German Army". http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~maampo/militaer/armkorp.html

For your own use, you can check a Regimental marking (only for the pre-Aug 1914 Regts) on my site, by using the lists of all pre-Aug 1914 units at the bottom of the Guide to Imperial German Uniforms 1842-1918 at this link: http://www.kaisersbunker.com/gtp/

[Arran]

If you decide to go for it, I have a nice Hessian two-hole cockade to complete it...

Cheers,

Arran.

[PaulChep]

Thanks

Thanks for the help. Arran, If I get it I will contact you and thank you vey much. That is one of the best things about the guys in this forum, everyone is always very willing to help other collectors.

[Chip M]

Paul,
The split brad enlisted cockades were occasionally put on issue caps as original equipment. I have a mint issue Hessian cap that has a sewn-on national cockade and a split brad Hessian cockade and never had anything else. It is unit marked to B.A.XVIII and J.R.118.

Chip