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    Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse - Kupferkern (Copper-Core)

    Hey there!

    I was on a little militaria convention in Holland last weekend and I found somethin interesting:

    An Iron Cross 2nd Class.. with a core made of copper and a frame made of brass. The copper shines through the blackening here and there and you can see it has been covered with verdigis here and there.

    It is propably a "Probestück", a first run to test the machines, as copper is softer than iron.

    I found this one on a small stall on this convention. After having talked to the owner for quite a while and showing interest for this piece, he laughed about my offered money and said he wouldn't let it go for less than 1000€. At this point, I lost interest in buying it, to be honest. Still, the dealer was friendly and allowed me to take pictures of the cross and publish them on the internet for researches . So I did these with my mobile phone. Not the best, but you should see that the core is copper due to colouring.



    #2
    Originally posted by Kraal View Post
    he wouldn't let it go for less than 1000€.
    Amazing!

    Neat cross too.
    Best regards,
    Streptile

    Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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      #3
      I sold a CD marked one ,,, made of copper and brass ,,
      same thing as ,,,,,,,,,,,,,You are showing..

      they exist yes ,,,

      its not uncommon ,,1930's saw those copper brass frames and cores ,




      so save the money ,,eventually you will run in to one fore 45 euro .


      regards kay
      Last edited by Montgomery Burns; 07-28-2015, 02:42 PM.

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        #4
        Nice to hear your opinions gentlemen!

        Just wanted to share this one for the database so people like me who haven't crossed their ways with such an cross can find some information about it.

        But 1000€..Even if I had them easily I'd save them and some more money and ask you for your enemaled AWS Kay.. but never ever for a copper core cross in overaged condition

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          #5
          Originally posted by Kraal View Post
          Nice to hear your opinions gentlemen!

          Just wanted to share this one for the database so people like me who haven't crossed their ways with such an cross can find some information about it.

          But 1000€..Even if I had them easily I'd save them and some more money and ask you for your enemaled AWS Kay.. but never ever for a copper core cross in overaged condition
          I absolutely agree ,,,if ,,,you have to pay extremes ,at least ,let it be a extreme special.

          regards kay


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            #6
            Why assemble the piece? If you do a test run, you can check the quality of the press by looking at the core detail. The frames are another machine. You don't have to assemble to see if it the core fits in the frame.

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              #7
              A good question I must admit!

              Maybe something like a "1st Cross"-luck-bringing-talisman you put into a frame? Or to look if all the parts fit nicely?

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                #8
                Being a completely assembled piece and materials used would suggest a later commercial example. As Kay mentioned perhaps from the 1930's. After 1925 official imperial EK awards ceased. Commercially available examples of defunct Imperial awards did not always conform to 'official' examples in materials used.

                Tony
                An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

                "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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