New ribbon bar- new questions !

[ChristerD]

Hi all, this 8 piece ribbon bar just arrived in the mail, but I cant
work out its story ?

EK II, KVK w/s, Hessen , Saschen Weimar, HEK, KuK Bravery, Karl Truppenkreuz ? , and Bulgarian 1914-18

Could this be true, was the Karl truppen Cross given to non -Austrians ?
and could it be the first bar of two ? where the Austrian 1914-18, some Long service medals and a Hungarian ?

An officer with awards from three states and Austria?


Could anybody help me on this one ?
Best regards from Sweden
Christer

[ChristerD]

Backside of Ribbon

And here is the backside of the above ribbon !


Christer

[Daniel Krause]

The Saxon Weimar ribbon indicates an NCO type.
The Karl Troop cross was also given to Germans assigned to Austrian Units. Weimar time Ranklists do confirm this.

The back of this bar needs a proper inspection; tab back style is sooo easy to play with.

I´m not so happy with the whole combo. Something smells odd there.

Best regards

Daniel

[Dave Danner]

What Saxe-Weimar award? That looks like a Brunswick War Merit Cross ribbon. If I am just color-blind and the ribbon is black and the outer stripe is green, the stripes are still too narrow for the General Honor Decoration.

Also, even leaving aside the rarity of a Karl-Truppen-Kreuz award to a German, there are other things off. The order of precedence is wrong - on a post-1939 bar (by the KVK), the Austrian decorations would come ahead of the Honor Cross for Combatants. Also, I don't think the Bravery Medal would have swords on the ribbon, so this would likely be the ribbon of a Signum Laudis (not awarded to Germans) or a Military Merit Cross.

As Daniel notes, it smells odd.

[ChristerD]

Odd Ribbon

Thanks Daniel and Dave, you are right , this ribbon looks
quite "odd" ... The colours of the 4th ribbon is Green and black in the middle
but the strange combo with Signum laudis and Karl Truppen-creuz AND
after the Hinderburg is

The only real thing about it, is that the ribbons are old and I cant see
even with magnifier that anyone has played with the tabs later.
So someone did a fake bar for what ? a lot of work for a 20$ bar
Why didnt he put in some extra EK ribbon ? or a Non Combat EK ? I have seen a lot of thoose lately , and if they all are real I change my name to Adolf...

I save it in my collection as a odd-bad-curiosity

Thanks again Gentlemen !
Christer