A iron cross to be identified . experts needed

[Montgomery Burns]

Hy all colleagues collectors ,,,

I opened already a large portion of my,,, out of the ordinary research .

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=776642

And within that research i found pictures who where confusing to me ,,,,,to some level ..

here's one of those pictures ,,,

is it a 1914 cross ? on a older uniform ? or a 1870 unknown origin ?
I never was good on uniform dating ,,,,so I thought lets ask on WAF .

[Montgomery Burns]

no hump ,,unknown core ,,1870 ?

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[morel5000]

This one?

[Montgomery Burns]

sadly Michel ,,no ,,the crown is flat ,,the one on the photograph is not ...









regards kay

[morel5000]

Hi Kay,

I disagree here is another angle:



Greetings,
Michel

[Montgomery Burns]

I mean the ek on the photograph is shaped as the crown on the following picture

[Montgomery Burns]

compared to a KMST the KMST is flat

. regards kay

[gregM]

Hi Kay,
I could be one of the "Fr." variations.
Check out the 2nd class at the bottom of the page. Note the high crown
and nearly pointed "W".

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=263251&page=2

[Montgomery Burns]

Hi Kay,
I could be one of the "Fr." variations.
Check out the 2nd class at the bottom of the page. Note the high crown
and nearly pointed "W".

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=263251&page=2

thanks Greg ...could be ,,


but what is it ? 1870 or 1914 ? I am not sure ..




regards kay

[gregM]

The date definitely looks like 1914 to me.
I can see the tail of the 9 and the flat on the 4

[otter76]

I'd say that's a 14 too

[SCOTT G]

Hi Kay,
Looks close to either Fr or KAG early wide frames, but not 100% sure as it's very hard to judge without the photo or a good example of the two crosses in hand.

Scott