A New Ribbon Bar & Ribbon ID Help....

[Chris Taylor]

Just picked this one up, one of only a few Imperial only bars I have.

Here's what I have figured out so far-

#1 is Prussian War Aid,
#2 ????
#3 is Red Eagle,
#4 is mosty likely LS (maybe Prussian Order of the Crown?)
#5 is Century Medal

What's #2?
It looks familiar, but I can't place it.

Any help is much appreciated!

[Gerd Becker]

Hi Chris,

i agree with your list and assume, the yellow-white ribbon is the prussian lifesaving medal.

Very nice ribbonbar

best,
Gerd

[Gerd Becker]

And the blue one could be very well a prussian crown order. The LS-ribbon would be darker!?

[Dave Danner]

The second is probably the Kreuz des Allgemeinen Ehrenzeichens . The Rettungsmedaille had a single white stripe which was wider, like the Iron Cross. So number three is more likely the Allgemeines Ehrenzeichen.

[Dave Danner]

Or 3 and 4 could be the Medals of the Red Eagle Order and Crown Order.

[Gerd Becker]

The second is probably the Kreuz des Allgemeinen Ehrenzeichens . The Rettungsmedaille had a single white stripe which was wider, like the Iron Cross. So number three is more likely the Allgemeines Ehrenzeichen.

Yes, Dave is absolutely right. Its the Cross of the Allgemeine Ehrenzeichen. I wondered about the narrow white stripes. I don´t have my nimmergut-bänderkatalog anymore, someone knows, where i can grab a copy?

best,
Gerd

[sabertasche]

Gerd, I too am looking for a copy of the banderkatalog. Are there 2 extra copies out there?

Cheers,

Greg

[Chris Taylor]

Thanks Gerd & Dave, lots of great info from both of you.

So it looks like it goes like this-

#1 is Prussian War Aid
#2 is Allgemeine Ehrenzeichen
#3 is Red Eagle
#4 is Prussian Order of the Crown
#5 is Century Medal

Is the Kreuz des Allgemeinen Ehrenzeichens a Prussian award too?

[Gerd Becker]

Thanks Gerd & Dave, lots of great info from both of you.

So it looks like it goes like this-

#1 is Prussian War Aid
#2 is Allgemeine Ehrenzeichen
#3 is Red Eagle
#4 is Prussian Order of the Crown
#5 is Century Medal

Is the Kreuz des Allgemeinen Ehrenzeichens a Prussian award too?

Chris,

yes, it is a prussian award. Its the 1st class of the Allgemeine Ehrenzeichen so to say...

best,
Gerd

[Gerd Becker]

Gerd, I too am looking for a copy of the banderkatalog. Are there 2 extra copies out there?

Cheers,

Greg

Greg,

i just ordered a copy on this site:

http://www.sammlerpoint.de/lindner/l...renzeichen.htm

I have no idea, if they can deliver the book at all, as it is out of print, but if i receive it, i will let you know.

best,
Gerd

[Dave Danner]

Thanks Gerd & Dave, lots of great info from both of you.

So it looks like it goes like this-

#1 is Prussian War Aid
#2 is Allgemeine Ehrenzeichen
#3 is Red Eagle
#4 is Prussian Order of the Crown
#5 is Century Medal

Is the Kreuz des Allgemeinen Ehrenzeichens a Prussian award too?

Yes, the Kreuz des Allgemeinen Ehrenzeichens was a Prussian award, primarily for civil servants and the like. Given the criteria and the placement, I am inclined to believe that #3 is the Medal to the RAO, rather than the order itself, and #4 is the Medal of the Crown Order.

Here, from Uwe Bretzendorfer's site, are the Kreuz, the Medal of the Red Eagle Order and the Medal of the Crown Order:

[Chris Taylor]

Thanks Dave for the visual aids!

I'ts always nice to see the medals that go with the ribbons.

[Daniel Krause]

niiice bar!

- war aid
- cross of the General Honor badge
- General Honor badge
- a long service award
- Centenary medal

Your guy was at senior NCO-level with at least 40 years of active service.!
The General Honor badge came normally after 25 years, the Cross another 15 years later. This is not seen every day!!!

Best regards

Daniel

[JensF.]

I agree with Daves version. The light blue ribbon should be a Crown Order Medal. The Long Service Decoration was dark blue. There is no fading to the ribbon because on the back it is also light blue. Interesting ribbon-bar!