1870 period picture research

[Montgomery Burns]

I have being looking fore this quality picture fore a long time .
its the full house of pictures to find .

fore the imperial guy's its a

wideframe ek2 1870/1895/1900
clear detailing of the core
most likely frosting visible ,,,
ribbon details of the outer stitching .

I would say AWS wide frame ,,, ( 1900 )
pressed core ?

(fore the ww2 guy's it would be the AWS junker (schinkel) frame if I read it correctly )
Streptile would have more answers to that

[Montgomery Burns]

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[Valter Gorenc]

Very nice one.

It's interesting that he wears his EK in full size, but (higher) orders as mini chain only. Perhaps b/c EK was earned in war and RAO & KO are for peacetime merit?

[Montgomery Burns]

seen that on more pictures ,,regularly.

also with full size bars ,,,,,the ek in the button hole .

even non military related bars in combination with a ek1 and no sign of the ek2 or ribbon .

I think there was no hard restrictions , to how to place them .

regards kay

[morel5000]

Very nice, anything on the back?

Best regards,
Michel

[Montgomery Burns]

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regards kay

[streptile]

Very cool!

If you ever want to sell...

[Montgomery Burns]

Very cool!

If you ever want to sell...

so far I want to keep it.

maybe I should look fore a AWS like that to make a picture /ek combo .

as solid example of research and proof ,,so to speak .

you got such a AWS ? Streptile .

regards kay

ps ,,if I remember correctly,,you got one of such pictures as well ?




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[Biro]

That is a great picture Kay.

This is truly the way we validate a type of core or oaks with no debate whatsoever.

There are plenty more photos out there like this I'm sure and in some ways they are even better than a period catalogue. We can learn a lot more from researching these period photos than we can speculating and using our own personal opinions.

Well done. Keep it up.

Marshall

[Montgomery Burns]

That is a great picture Kay.

This is truly the way we validate a type of core or oaks with no debate whatsoever.

There are plenty more photos out there like this I'm sure and in some ways they are even better than a period catalogue. We can learn a lot more from researching these period photos than we can speculating and using our own personal opinions.

Well done. Keep it up.

Marshall

thanks Marshall ,,
I wanted to take my speculations one step farther.

glad you like it ..

regards kay

[morel5000]

On the chain I see :

Kronen order;
Roter Adler Orden;

then two medals possible 1870-71 KDM and???

Does anyone know what the two medals are?

Best regards,
Michel

[streptile]

so far I want to keep it.

No problem... when you're ready to sell it, you have my email

Here is the type of cross he is wearing: an AWS with the double-loop backed oakleaves. Also the image from the AWS catalogue 1908.

[gregM]

On the chain I see :

Kronen order;
Roter Adler Orden;

then two medals possible 1870-71 KDM and???

Does anyone know what the two medals are?

Best regards,
Michel

My guess is the last one is the 1897 Centenary medal.