Ribbon bar ID needed

[lewjian]

Dear imperial collectors, here is a 14 piece ribbon bar that I would like to show you, the ribbon colour is have heavily faded make it a little bit difficult to see from the front, however orignal colour is visible on the rear side.
I have no clue about the possible ID at all. I know we have some true experts in the forum, PLEASE help

[lewjian]

Note the type of swords

[lewjian]

The ribbon of Iron Crown Order is made of a narrower yellow ribbon on top of a blue ribbon a bit difficult to see from distance

[lewjian]

Hardware

[lewjian]

hardware



Thanks for looking

[lewjian]

Here I'm trying to make a list of the medals, some are in question so please correct me.

- EKII

- Hohenzollern House Order, with swords

- Centenarmedaille

- Order of Zähringen Lion Knight 3rd class, with oaks and swords

- Albert Order Knight 1st Class, with oaks and swords

- Militaerverdienstkreuz of Mecklenburg 2nd class

- Brunswick Ernst August Cross 2nd class

- Order of Zähringen Lion, class ?

- Albert Order, class ?

- Baden merit medal ? or service medal? or Order of Henry the Lion ?

- Baden jubilee medal

- Order of the Iron Crown, class ?

- Austro-Hungarian Military Merit Cross 3rd Class

- Turkish War Medal

[römischIX]

i cannot help you with IDing the bar, but it is a very nice one made of godet & son berlin.

May be Rick Research could help.

[luftkrieg]

Stunning ribbon bar!!

Kind regards
Pierce

[pzrwest]

Impressive ribbon bar.... would love to see the medal bar that accompanied this ribbon bar would be very impressive

[lewjian]

Impressive ribbon bar.... would love to see the medal bar that accompanied this ribbon bar would be very impressive

Oh yes! that would be really nice

Any more comments? Come on guys where are the rank list experts

[MauserKar98k]

Strange, why would the recipient have the ribbon from the Zähringen Lion on there twice?

[lewjian]

Strange, why would the recipient have the ribbon from the Zähringen Lion on there twice?

I don't have an answer to it, but I remember seeing other examples with two Zähringen Lion orders. Here you can see some of them:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...E4hringen+Lion

And this one in post #55.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru....php?p=3366109

Can someone help to explain about the regulation come to this particular case?

[saschaw]

Well... this is as easy as one could think: He got both!

In Baden, other than usual in Prussia, a sword award did not replace a pre-war award without swords. Same thing the other way round, any sword award did not affect a later peace time award.

So anyone who got two, could wear them both, if one was with and the other without swords. I also think )but don't know for sure), sword awards could be worn together if anyone received several ones, e.g. for the colonial conflicts and later one in the world war.

Same thing, be the way, with the Bavarian MVO. You'll find bars with two of them, of course not at any corner.

[MauserKar98k]

Well... this is as easy as one could think: He got both!

In Baden, other than usual in Prussia, a sword award did not replace a pre-war award without swords. Same thing the other way round, any sword award did not affect a later peace time award.

So anyone who got two, could wear them both, if one was with and the other without swords. I also think )but don't know for sure), sword awards could be worn together if anyone received several ones, e.g. for the colonial conflicts and later one in the world war.

Same thing, be the way, with the Bavarian MVO. You'll find bars with two of them, of course not at any corner.

Thanks for the lesson, I didn't know this.

[Daniel Krause]

Definetly the best bar I´ve seen this year. Congratulations!!!
Is an ID possible? Yes for sure! Just takes a bit work.

Lots of greetings
Daniel