My first pre-1915 ribbon bar

[landsknechte]

I just bought this beauty from our very own Stogierick:





...any thoughts on this one? Likely rank of owner? Army? Navy? etc.

--Chris

[Daniel Krause]

before 1897!!! No centenary medal!

I think he entered after 1866 or was still at officers school then; no 1866 campaign cross. Earned a EK in 1870, added a Red eagle peacetime, received his XXV beginning of the 90ies. Last one is for sure a Oldenburg House Order.
I assume You have there a Major. For an ID it is very thin. I had a very similar ID problem but with 2 more "hot spots" and this took me monthes. A chance is, to check the Prussian ranklists from 1891 to 1897 for a Major with this combo.

Best regards

Daniel

[landsknechte]

before 1897!!! No centenary medal!

I think he entered after 1866 or was still at officers school then; no 1866 campaign cross. Earned a EK in 1870, added a Red eagle peacetime, received his XXV beginning of the 90ies. Last one is for sure a Oldenburg House Order.
I assume You have there a Major. For an ID it is very thin. I had a very similar ID problem but with 2 more "hot spots" and this took me monthes. A chance is, to check the Prussian ranklists from 1891 to 1897 for a Major with this combo.

Best regards

Daniel

Thanks!

[Sal Williams]

I have the 1894 list and I was wondering, as I am not good at this, what the symbols for the combo I am looking for would look like. Also a major in German is a.......?

Best, Sal

[landsknechte]

Also a major in German is a.......?

Major!

That's one of the easy ones.

[Sal Williams]

what is the ribbon that Daniel did not identify?

[Sal Williams]

and what class RA am I looking for? Is there a different symbol for a peacetime one? EK 1 I assume? what kind of oldenburg order?

[landsknechte]

and what class RA am I looking for? Is there a different symbol for a peacetime one? EK 1 I assume? what kind of oldenburg order?

My understanding:
1. 1870 EK2
2. Prussian RAO4 (I'm guessing on that)
3. Prussian DA25
4. Franco-Prussian War Commemorative
5. Oldenburg Haus- und Verdienstorden von Herzog Peter Friedrich Ludwig

No idea how they would have abbreviated the last one, but "PFL" may have been an element.

[John Skandalis]

In the first pages of the ranklist, there are the abbreviations of the various orders. For example, the Red Eagle Order 4 class, is shown as a cross with 4 next to it. So, what we have here (with the corresponding description) is:

1. Rother Adler-Orden 4ter Klasse
2. Eisernes Kreuz 2ter Klasse
3. Dienstauszeichnungskreuz
4. 1870-71 KDM (not shown in ranklists)
5. Oldenburgische Haus- und verdienst-Orden, Ehrenritter-Kreuz 2. Kl.

The symbol for the last one is: OV3b or OV3bX for the addition of swords.

In the 1894 ranklist, there are at least 10 Majors with this combination of orders, and one with a rare OV3b.a.X.a.R (2nd class with swords at ring).

[landsknechte]

In the first pages of the ranklist, there are the abbreviations of the various orders. For example, the Red Eagle Order 4 class, is shown as a cross with 4 next to it. So, what we have here (with the corresponding description) is:

1. Rother Adler-Orden 4ter Klasse
2. Eisernes Kreuz 2ter Klasse
3. Dienstauszeichnungskreuz
4. 1870-71 KDM (not shown in ranklists)
5. Oldenburgische Haus- und verdienst-Orden, Ehrenritter-Kreuz 2. Kl.

The symbol for the last one is: OV3b or OV3bX for the addition of swords.

In the 1894 ranklist, there are at least 10 Majors with this combination of orders, and one with a rare OV3b.a.X.a.R (2nd class with swords at ring).

Even without an ID, it's still a nice addition to my collection.

Thanks so much for your help!

--Chris

[Daniel Krause]

The symbols and abbreviations for the decorations are at the beginning of the Ranklist.

Red Eagle 4 is a plain cross with a 4
The EK looks like a EK
The XXV cross is a pebbled cross
The 1870 war medal does not show up
Oldenburg should be either OV3a (knight 1st) , OV3b (knight 2nd with crown) or OV3c (knight 2nd)

Best regards

Daniel