1914 eki

[Miro O]

Here's a sheet core from the CFZ horde.

Nice proof that these CFZ were of two piece hollow core, thanks for showing the pic.

[Montgomery Burns]

well . Fore a long time i hmmmmmd

Do i see the same frames here ?

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=637330

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[pzrwest]

Nice CF Zimmermann! Remember theres a Fritz Zimmermann as well but they were not as early as CFZ and probably did not make 1914s, easy to mix them up.

99% sure the frame and backplate is made from Neusilber but that alloy got around 60% of Copper in it so that color is a common thing. Core is most probably a blued iron sheet core judging by the pics.

Here's a sheet core from the CFZ horde.

Is it possible they also made reverse side sheet cores as well as front side sheet cores? I'm looking at an EKII with the front side shifted to the left but the reverse side the core is centered. Here is a cropping of both obverse and reverse.

[morel5000]

Hi Harold,

the cross on the spange is IMO not the type with two sheets but has a massive core, which is just loose.

Best regards,
Michel

[pzrwest]

So in your opinion the core is a solid piece and he must have centered it when he flipped the cross over?

[morel5000]

yes or not symmetrically stamped, I got one too:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=310357

[Roglebk]

Kay, the CFZ and 'modern fake' frames are so similar it's scary but there's subtle differencies imo.

I'm with Michel, either a loose core or just not symmetrical.