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    Krieg Chronik 1914 - 1918 - your thoughts please.

    Hi,

    I've been going through my collection and I'm trying to get everything authenticated, or at least reviewed on the forum.
    The lot in picture was bought in one group.

    Is there anything to be concerned about? Can someone provide a translation?
    The smaller printing at the bottom will be posted too.

    Also it appears to be hand written (the main piece of writing).

    Cheers,

    Jamie
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      #3
      Please let me know what you think.
      Also as a price guide how much it this small collection worth?
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        #4
        Aahhh, RIR 180. My favorite regiment.
        pseudo-expert

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          #5
          A mint Schickle cut-out silver wound badge. My favorite
          Best regards,
          Streptile

          Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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            #6
            Originally posted by streptile View Post
            A mint Schickle cut-out silver wound badge. My favorite
            Cheers,

            It was interesting find this 'lot' - especially the print by Elk Eber with a hand written history. Which leaves me rather unsure about its true worth, a print by him before the Nazi period.
            There seems to be some history here.

            http://www.galleria.thule-italia.com/eber.html

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              #7
              Originally posted by muzrub View Post
              Cheers,

              It was interesting find this 'lot' - especially the print by Elk Eber with a hand written history. Which leaves me rather unsure about its true worth, a print by him before the Nazi period.
              There seems to be some history here.

              http://www.galleria.thule-italia.com/eber.html

              Elk Eber drew the original image from which this document was printed. He may well have drawn the image directly on the litho stone or plate. Although I doubt that. It appears to be a charcoal drawing, which was photographed and then printed by off-set lithography. It's not actually signed by him, except within the original drawing. The document is post 1934, a period during which Eber was one the main art darlings of the Nazis. He produced a ton of images mostly of the classic square-jawed "Frontkämpfer" hurling grenades or chiseled SA men as the epitome of the master race.
              He was an extremely talented artist, as can be seen in this document. Unfortunately he largely wasted his talent producing national socialist drivel.

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                #8
                Originally posted by bolewts58 View Post
                Elk Eber drew the original image from which this document was printed. He may well have drawn the image directly on the litho stone or plate. Although I doubt that. It appears to be a charcoal drawing, which was photographed and then printed by off-set lithography. It's not actually signed by him, except within the original drawing. The document is post 1934, a period during which Eber was one the main art darlings of the Nazis. He produced a ton of images mostly of the classic square-jawed "Frontkämpfer" hurling grenades or chiseled SA men as the epitome of the master race.
                He was an extremely talented artist, as can be seen in this document. Unfortunately he largely wasted his talent producing national socialist drivel.
                Hi,

                Eber seems to have been an interesting guy and his American Indian pictures seem slightly out of step with his Nazi leanings. I've seen a few of these krieg docs, most have been printed in colour- - and finding an artists name seems nigh impossible (online).

                Being new to this type document I have quite a bit to learn. Were there other popular artists involved in this type of rememberence, also how can you tell it's post 1934? Were these types of docs only popular during the 30's? Any information would be great:-)

                Thanks for your comments.

                Cheers,

                Jamie

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                  #9
                  The main clue to it being post 1934 is the fact that he received the Front Ehrenkreuz (popularly known as the Hindenburg Cross), which was instituted in 1934.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by bolewts58 View Post
                    The main clue to it being post 1934 is the fact that he received the Front Ehrenkreuz (popularly known as the Hindenburg Cross), which was instituted in 1934.
                    Indeed.

                    What a twit

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                      You might want to contact Chris Boonzaier. He collects documents and is the most knowledgable guy I know for them.
                      pseudo-expert

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Don D. View Post


                        You might want to contact Chris Boonzaier. He collects documents and is the most knowledgable guy I know for them.
                        I looked up his site after a search.

                        I'll email him when I get home.

                        BTW thanks for your help with the ek2

                        Cheers,

                        Jamie.

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                          A rough translation,

                          Gotthold Hasert

                          Musketeer Württemberg Infantry Regiment Nr. 180

                          Iron Cross 2nd Class, Wound insignia, Frontfighter Honor Cross

                          "He was born on January 11, 1897 at Uhlbach. During the world war he was inducted as a recruit in September 1916 to the Ersatz Battalion of the Württemberg Inf. Rgt. Nr.121 and moved on Dec. 22, 1916 to the mobile Württemberg Inf. Rgt. Nr. 180 in the field / taking honorable share in the campaigns / In the West against France: positional fighting on the Somme, combat before the Siegfried front, springtime battle near Arras 1917, positional fighting in Flanders and the Artois, battle in Flanders, fighting in the Siegfriedstellung, border defense on the Belgian Dutch borders, positional fighting in the Artois, great battle in France 1918, breakthrough battle Monchy-Cambrai, battle around Mühlenberg, attack on the Scarpe, fighting between Albert and Arras, where, on March 28 , 1918 at Nenin, he became wounded by a M.G. bullet / as a result he was discharged at the demobilization in November 1918."

                          The list of battles are from the standard list that was produced after the war, describing the various official names of the campaigns. You see them repeated over and over again in the battle honors of units and individuals.

                          Chip

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                            #14
                            [QUOTE=Chip M;5359936]A rough translation,

                            Gotthold Hasert

                            Musketeer Württemberg Infantry Regiment Nr. 180

                            Iron Cross 2nd Class, Wound insignia, Frontfighter Honor Cross

                            "He was born on January 11, 1897 at Uhlbach. During the world war he was inducted as a recruit in September 1916 to the Ersatz Battalion of the Württemberg Inf. Rgt. Nr.121 and moved on Dec. 22, 1916 to the mobile Württemberg Inf. Rgt. Nr. 180 in the field / taking honorable share in the campaigns / In the West against France: positional fighting on the Somme, combat before the Siegfried front, springtime battle near Arras 1917, positional fighting in Flanders and the Artois, battle in Flanders, fighting in the Siegfriedstellung, border defense on the Belgian Dutch borders, positional fighting in the Artois, great battle in France 1918, breakthrough battle Monchy-Cambrai, battle around Mühlenberg, attack on the Scarpe, fighting between Albert and Arras, where, on March 28 , 1918 at Nenin, he became wounded by a M.G. bullet / as a result he was discharged at the demobilization in November 1918."

                            The list of battles are from the standard list that was produced after the war, describing the various official names of the campaigns. You see them repeated over and over again in the battle honors of units and individuals.

                            Chip[/]

                            Thank you for your time and effort.
                            Our family have an in rememberance scroll from the kew shire council for the loss of one of our relatives (kew-- Melbourne, Australia). But I don't believe we had docs like this which celebrated someones war. We probably did though?

                            So many kriegs chronik were a common script with details added-- interesting. Did people send away for something like this, or did they seek out a company to create one? I actually expected the printing to be 'printed' and not hand written. Is hand written the norm?



                            Thanks again.
                            Cheers,
                            Jamie
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                              #15
                              Hand written is the norm for the military service recorded on these. Not everyone participated in every battle so given the wide range of possible entries, hand writing is the logical solution.
                              pseudo-expert

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