Ek1

[Don D.]

Thoughts on this cross please. I don't recall seeing this style pin before but maybe I'm just getting old.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=580487

Can we put a maker to this?

[Mike Dunn]

Pin looks similar to the fake Polish EKI but I don't think the Polish one was marked on the back.. Mike

[morel5000]

Hi,

I first want too see some in focus pictures before I judge. The core is the standard slanted W...

Best regards,
Michel

[streptile]

I would say photos in focus would help us: obverse, marks, and hinge at an angle.

EDIT: I wrote the same thing as Michel...

[Rich G]

For me the cross is a good one but I think the '2' is added later. I have the same cross with the 800 in the same position and have had it for at least 10 years. I have also seen them with an additional 800 on the pin.

Rich

[Don D.]

Hi Richard. Can you post a photo series of the reverse hardware please.

[gregM]

I also would like to see better pictures.

At first glance---I don't like it.
The "2" stamped in the reverse reminds me of the bogus marks that we
see on the RZM and SS stamped screwbacks. Also the fact that the
back and the pin are both marked 800 puts me off. Let alone the whole
shape of the pin.

Lately, I've been wrong almost as much as I've been right, but my gut
says NO.

[Rich G]

Here's another:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/ws/eBayISAPI....971497328.html

I'll see if I have pics of mine available but if not I'll take some tomorrow.

Rich

[Rich G]

Pin looks similar to the fake Polish EKI but I don't think the Polish one was marked on the back.. Mike

Can you post this polish fake you are referring too so we can see both on the same page?

Rich

[Don D.]

I assume this is the same type as well: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/No4017-Ger...item3f14899f20

[streptile]

I assume this is the same type as well: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/No4017-Ger...item3f14899f20

Hi Don,

The one you link to is a fake without any doubt. The others under discussion here, whatever they may be, are not related to that one. Core, frame, hardware and marks are all different.

[Don D.]

Thanks Trevor.

[Kraal]

Hi there!

Have seen this type before several times during my Godet EK1 studies (but this one is clearly NOT a Godet), even through different, no hint to be fake. Owend 2 of them some while ago myself. Needle block on this one seems to be repaired, switched or badly soldered. This commonly (by KAG/V/Y) used block is not too uncommon on these crosses, even if these usually come withwider a standard 1914 needle block. Same for the needle -might be replaced afterwards, but there are original needles like these on such pieces. Trevor, take a look onto your 1870 EK2 B type. Same needle variation

The vaulted slanted W has many variations on beading, needle blocks, hinges and needles alike. Even some serious differences in vaulting.

Better pictures of the block AND the needle would be helpful to determine whether they are from the WW1 Era or from the earlier past. I say the cross is fine.

Stamps are both faked, no doubt. Completly out of style and position for these crosses.

[Mike Dunn]

Richard, the Polish fake EKI is in the second pinned thread Spot on: IMPERIAL FAKES! Mike

[Rich G]

OK, I made the photos of mine. I'm not sure if the core was ever painted. It looks more like a chemical finish though.

Rich