Post 1934 applications for WWI Comemmoratives?

[landsknechte]

Came across three ribbon bars for sale on eBay... They all appear to come from the same source, given the quirky placement of the Austrian WWI comemmorative. (I seem to remember hearing that a few vets in post-Anschluss Germany treated that commemorative as a "German" award, and placed it accordingly. Is that indeed the case?) Anyhow, the main thing that strikes me about this set is the other WWI comemmoratives. Is it all normal (or even possible) for a vet to have waited until after 1936 to apply for them?

[McCulloh]

yes-
The Hungarian one was awarded earlier- @1928 and very popular. The Bulgarian one-instituted later-seems to have been rarer, but awards of both seem to have been made well into 1940-1941. I would guess just from my own observations, that the Austrian one was rarest of all to Germans-but it too seems to have been awarded until 1939. The Tyrol medal was awarded well after the Anschluss.

[landsknechte]

yes-
The Hungarian one was awarded earlier- @1928 and very popular. The Bulgarian one-instituted later-seems to have been rarer, but awards of both seem to have been made well into 1940-1941. I would guess just from my own observations, that the Austrian one was rarest of all to Germans-but it too seems to have been awarded until 1939. The Tyrol medal was awarded well after the Anschluss.

Makes sense... When I first saw those bars, I was wondering if the situation was such that if you were going to have one of the Bulgarian / Hungarian / Austrian ribbons, you'd have had it before you got your Hindenburg Cross.

[Rick Research]

Nice post-1938 bars in then correct precedence.

I've only seen one ribbon bar with the Austrian WW1XM to a German that did not have the HCX-- both would have come along so closely together 1934/35 that most people probably knew they had both "in process."

The Hungarian WW1 was certainly being awarded as late as 1942. Back in a bit with a scan (since I know have that power! )-- the Hungarian ones also are consecutively serial numbered, which helps track awards over time. I'd ay the vast bulk of those to Germans went through from about 1930 to 1933, as ribbon bars are often found with the Hungarian ribbon and no HCX.

Notice that on this late award, the original perforated ledger book tear off along the top edge has been replaced by a printed document using the same old long pink ledger format. Herr Jacobs was a NAUGHTY man, "padding" his awards to look more important in the SHD. When he actually served in the unit shown-- in 1914-- it was in FRANCE. This regiment did LATER serve on the Eastern front, but he had left it (a search on Bremen or Flamga with his name will turn up other items) BEFORE then. Although NONE of the Central Powers required actual "service alongside" EXCEPT the Tyrolean medal, he apparently felt the need to "boost" his resumé by leaving the "impression" that he had served other than entirely in France-- which he did NOT.

[Rick Research]

There is another completely different style award document for this medal, a printed hand drawn illustration of charging cavalry, angels, etc, that seems to have existed simultaneously. The ones I have seen were issued from Berlin in the 1930s.

Here is the back of Jacobs' document, showing address of ?the/ ? a post-1938 person and office for processing awards to Germans.