Order of Battle: 64th Prussian Infantry

[Chris_Werner]

Hello Imperialites:
Can anyone help me with an Order of battle/history of the 64th Prussian and the 64th Wurttemburg Infantry in the Franco-Prussian War and WW I?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris Werner

[Glenn2438]

Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 64

Chris,

there was no 64th Württemberg Infantry Regiment. The Prussian regiment with that number was titled at the time of the Franco-German War as the 8. Brandenburgisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 64 (Prinz Friedrich Karl von Preußen). The regimental commander during the war was Oberst Wilhelm Freiherr Treusch von Buttlar-Brandenfels.

It went to war with a strength of 58 officers, 8 Vize-Feldwebel Offizier-Anwärter, 1 Fähnrich, 6 medical officers, 3 Zahlmeister & 3000 NCOs and men.

It saw action at:

Vionville-Mars la Tour - 16 Aug 1870
Gravelotte-St. Privat - 18 Aug 1870
Siege of Metz - 19 Aug - 27 Oct 1870
Nancray - 30 Nov 1870
Orléans - 3 & 4 Dec 1870
Azay-Mazange - 6 Jan 1871
Epuisay - 7 Jan 1871
Montaillé - 8 Jan 1871 (Füsilier-Bataillon)
Ardenay - 9 Jan 1871
Le Mans - 10 - 12 Jan 1871

It lost during the war 15 officers killed including Oberstleutnant von Winterfeld at Vionville plus a further 1 Fähnrich, 21 NCOs , 2 Hornist, 1 Drummer, 1 Train Soldier and 189 men killed.

Regards
Glenn

[Sal Williams]

Glenn,
Where do you find all that info? Amazing
Best, Sal

[Glenn2438]

Sources

Hi Sal,

amongst others these two:

Historische Rang- und Stammliste des deutschen Heeres by Bredow and Wedel (3 volumes) &
Deutschlands Heere bis 1918 by G. Voigt (11 volumes).

Regards
Glenn

[Sal Williams]

Are those old books or books still in print?
Best, Sal

[Glenn2438]

Biblio Verlag

Sal,

The Bredow/Wedel is available as a reprint from Biblio Verlag. The Deutschlands Heere series is also a biblio product. Not all the volumes however are still in print although I think most of the infantry volumes are. The latter series are not pretty. They were typed on a typewriter and not professionally typeset. They are however a mine of information. Check out Biblio's site at:

http://www.militaria-biblio.de/

or the Preußisches Bücherkabinett at:

http://www.buecherkabinett.com/

Best regards
Glenn

[joerookery]

Chris,

I do not have near the detail Glenn has. The WW1 part of this:

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Infanterie-Regiment General-Feldmarshchall Prinz Friedrich Karl von Preußen (8. Brandenburgisches) Nr.64

Seniority 5/5/1860

Prenzlau, III Angermünde

Part of III Corps

6<SUP>th</SUP> Division

12<SUP>th</SUP> Brigade

Fought with the 6<SUP>th</SUP> Division through the war. Western front except a short Russian Stint in 1917. 6<SUP>th</SUP> Division was considered one of the best according to Histories of 251 Divisions.

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Hope this helps!

[Chris_Werner]

Joe and Glenn:
Thank you so much for all your help. I just got a pair of the large 1910 style Major's shoulderboards with "64" cyphers. The cording looks Prussian, but you can see very faded red along with the black chevrons. The underlay is white. The seller (Rick at Great War Militaria) said they were used as Prussian, but the boards looked Wurttemburg. He says they are not a put together job, but that the cypers are original to the boards and have been on there for a long time. We couldn't figure out if they were Prussian or Wurttenburg, so this helps.
Thanks again,
Chris

[Glenn2438]

Underlay

Hi Chris,

I would have expected a set of pre-war boards to have red underlay for I.R. 64.

Regards
Glenn

[Chris_Werner]

What would white be in the M1910 style?

[joerookery]

This is from the Laine Book pg 52.

[joerookery]

Shoulder strap piping on field grey also red. Chris can you post a picture?

[Chris_Werner]

I can forward to your E-Mail what Rick E-Mailed me with attachment.. I don't have a scanner.

[joerookery]

This is Chris' picture

[Chris_Werner]

Joe, thanks for posting the pics for me. Anyone want to take a stab at these? The catalogue description basically says Wurttemburg Boards being used with Prussian cyphers, and being used by Prussian 64th Regiment. Could date back to Franco-Prussian War.
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