WW2 1914 L/16 Screwback EK1

[evilmike]

Arrived today off eban

[römischIX]

nice one buddy.

[streptile]

Mike can you do a good close shot of the mark please?

There are fake cores and frames that look literally identical to these, and while I have not yet seen them marked L/16, who knows what's next?

Here is a good mark to compare to:

[Wik]

That is a good looking cross Mike. I sure hope Trev is wrong (under the circumstances, I think you understand, eh bud?! lol)!

Obviously close ups of the MM are needed but the bottom arm of the "L" and the 6 in "16" do seem to look different. Could just be a lighter stamp...or so I am hoping!


Ryan

[streptile]

To me, this type of cross has become virtually uncollectible. To understand why, have a look at this photo composite. One of these is fake. Does it even matter which one? (it's the right)



To authenticate yours, I would compare the reverse screwpost, the L/16 mark, and the disc itself, with good wartime L/16 1939 EK1s. They should all be the same.

[Jesse]

I saw this one for sale. He also had a KO marked cross listed as well. I also thought that the crossshown was not original and probably the KO as well.

The core for me is the problem. I once had an identical fake Third Reich cross like this, marked the same with the exact harware set up.

I hope I am wrong.

J

[evilmike]

Hi Trevor, the cross looked like a good match in terms of the L/16 stamp to the one in the EK1 book, with a larger L stamp... Iam heading out the door now typical so will be back to investigate later

cheers Mike

[evilmike]

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[evilmike]

It appears to be a perfect match to page 182 of the iron cross 1st class, now that doesnt guarentee its right, same sloping fat L, soft crown detail, high anti reversal solder....

[LeeJ]

To me, this type of cross has become virtually uncollectible

I dont touch them But I wouldnt discourage anyone for having a go at it

Its just that I see these almost as much as I see the 9 beads

[Montgomery Burns]

I dont touch them But I wouldnt discourage anyone for having a go at it

Its just that I see these almost as much as I see the 9 beads

conflicting answers,,,,

posting this cross at the wehrmacht section wood be wise







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[evilmike]

I did and didnt get any replies

[Montgomery Burns]

I did and didnt get any replies

try the search option


http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...&highlight=L16

frame comparing ,,that is what they do over there ...

and you maybe find this

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...&highlight=L16

and before you know it ,,,you know what is needed ...

how is that fore an answer from a former 1939 traveller.






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[LeeJ]

Conflicting how? I dont collect them mostly because I have a hard time telling the difference at this point but Im not going to tell someone else not too.

I collect 1870 crosses because its easier to tell the difference to me possibly because Ive done more research. If I did some more research on these I might feel more comfortable buying them. I was only saying that I see alot of these on ebay like the 9 bead.

I do agree that maybe the TR guys could give some more insight.

Maker marks are sometimes very clear and sometimes faint. I think the cross features are better to go off of then the maker mark. If the distinctive features add up with a distinctive mm then you may have something.

[evilmike]

Of all the threads ive looked at today thats the 1st time ive seen that one, iam glad the photos are still up


Thanks