WWI German Bayonet?

[EKman]

Greetings all,
A friend of mine has come across this bayonet. I told him that I believe it to be WWI German. I was hoping to get some opinions from yall.
Thanks

[Theodor]

Hi,

Looks to me like a bayonet for Mannlicher. Could be German... or Austrian, or Hungarian... By chance, can you read markings on it?

[EKman]

Markings

It is marked as follows:
M 5380
And on the blade: SIMSON & Co. SUHL

[Firechief88]

My Opinion

I am no expert, but I think you have a nice WWI era German dress bayonet. Probably a 60-70 dollar value. Would be more obviously if you had the sheath, I dont suppose you do and just didnt picture it?

[EKman]

Sorry

Sorry, sadly, the sheath was not with the bayonet, but my friend did get a fairly nice deal on it.
Thanks

[Tom Y]

It's a S(eitengewehr) 71/84, adopted by Prussia, Saxony and Württemberg in January 1884.

Is there an acceptance mark on the spine? It'd be a crowned inital over a 2 digit number.

[EKman]

No

Sorry, but I see no stamp on the spine of the blade. Does that indicate a reproduction or something else less negative?
Thanks

[Tom Y]

No, not a repro or anything negative. Most likely a contract piece. The M5380 isn't a German unit mark. Possibly Turkish or Argentine. Still a nice piece and fairly scarce model..

[Helmut]

This "Seitengewehr" was used from turkish Army. They grind off all the german stamps. Look at the rust. I think you can see a welded seam because the difference between socket and barrel from the turkish rifle was bigger as from german weapons.

[Admiraal]

I got a bayonet like that with sheath, its marked 494 A on the sheath, what could that be? the A is larger then the other numbers.
Also in the wood of the handle HDA is engraved.

[JIMP10X]

It is a german made spanish 1893 mauser bayonet,almost identical to the german 71/84,except that the muzzle ring is much higher than the german or turk models.
Jim

[Admiraal]

Well, mine is a bit differend, its a real 71/84 i think, like you said the ring differs on mine, any idea what the 494 A can be on the sheath
I'll post pictures later but mine looks like this one:
http://www.sacktrick.com/igu/germanc...doa%201116.jpg

I found that image via google on this site:
http://www.sacktrick.com/igu/germanc...a/bayonets.htm

[Admiraal]

Oke here are some pictures of mine.

It has been cleaned and polished, i think because it was rusty once.
So because of that, most markings are gone.

the wood is a bit cracked but, can't be moved.


Here a close up, read what i have written in the picture.


No idea how i must call this part, but it has a marking on it, could be "18" but i don't think so, any idea?


And as last, close up of the sheath, 494 A stamped on it.


Any opinions are welcome

[JIMP10X]

Rick,
Yours is a Belgian model 24 export.Most likely exported to South America.The markings are most likely arsenal or rack numbers from what ever country imported them.

Jim

[Admiraal]

Oke thanks, i can't find much about them, what kind of rifle does it go on?