Help with maker on another Turkish Gallipoli star

[nzef1940]

I have just aquired another of these, though not as nice as the silver screwback, still a nice unmarked piece of German manufacture. Can anyone recognise the maker please?

Thanks in advance

Mike

[nzef1940]

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[römischIX]

yeah, it`s a german meybauer... and i like it very much...

[nzef1940]

Excellent Joe, many thanks.

yeah, it`s a german meybauer... and i like it very much...

[90th Light]

yeah, it`s a german meybauer... and i like it very much...

This is puzzling because I have never seen a one piece Meybauer Gallipoli/ Turkish star.

Every Meybauer example which I can find images of is a multi-part delux type with rivets showing on the reverse side and thiner/ smoother looking pin with no file marks on it.

Is the hinge a seperate part on this one which has been attached or is it a one piece casting including the hinge.

Very interesting example in more ways than one ???

Chris

[nzef1940]

Hello Chris

The hinge is separate and the badge itself is two piece - you can see the seam in the last image.

It is silver plated also not solid silver, perhaps they where produced in various qualities and price - according to the size of your wallet. Or even a later WW1 example?

[saschaw]

Most German extra pieces are even post-WW1, at least I think so. And this one reminds me to those by Godet...

[Don D.]

Given the length of time these were produced you have to expect some variation, even in the stock of an individual producer.

[90th Light]

Hello Chris

The hinge is separate and the badge itself is two piece - you can see the seam in the last image.

It is silver plated also not solid silver, perhaps they where produced in various qualities and price - according to the size of your wallet. Or even a later WW1 example?

Thanks Mike,

I can see it is plated brass and is clearly not the delux multi-part type

Have searched quite extensively under "Meybauer", "Turkish Star" and "Galliopoli Star" but can not find an image of one like that for love of trying.

Every time I found a "Maybauer" they were always the multi-part construction with a smooth quality finished pin which was not as thick as the pin on your one but that shape of pin. There was one collector giving a strong warning about the ones with out rivets and poor quality enamel not up to the German standard of the time so hence why I became puzzled. That one of your looks to be made the same why they made the "BB&Co" so they did make them that way but I would be interested to know if that is an acceptable method of manufacture for a Maybauer.

May be someone reading this might have one they can post a picture of,

Chris

[nzef1940]

Hello Chris

When searching I often find it helps to spell the item you are searching for correctly such as 'Gallipoli.'
Here is one like mine though in rough condition. It is multi part construction as I tried to convey in my earlier post. I imagine the rivets are simply covered by the backing plate..

[nzef1940]

Thanks Don, makes perfect sense to me.

Given the length of time these were produced you have to expect some variation, even in the stock of an individual producer.

[90th Light]

Hello Chris

When searching I often find it helps to spell the item you are searching for correctly such as 'Gallipoli.'
Here is one like mine though in rough condition. It is multi part construction as I tried to convey in my earlier post.

What the collector spelled out was that this type of "multi part" as you call it is one of a new generation of fakes hitting the market. They have been copied off a multi-part delux Meybauer of the time but are of recent manufacture with inferior enamel which chips easy and hence why one can see the pattern underneath so clearly.

Also there are no riverts what so ever. If it is in fact multi-part then it has been sweated together or even worse glued.

The pin with file marks is typical off the type found on copied Maybauer pins which one often encounters on the reproduction/ fake off the WW1 pilot, observer badges etc.


Chris

p.s. the badge that you show an image of in post number 10 was declared a fake by several advanced collectors and just goes to reinforce what I am trying to work out. In fact you could not have put up an image of a better example but on that one they have not got the Maybauer pin correct which seemingly they have now improved upon.

[nzef1940]

Oh, so your saying its a fake?

[nzef1940]

Modern Copy.

[nzef1940]

Would appreciate some other opinions, I very much doubt this badge (post no 10) or mine are wrong.

'p.s. the badge that you show an image of in post number 10 was declared a fake by several advanced collectors and just goes to reinforce what I am trying to work out. In fact you could not have put up an image of a better example but on that one they have not got the Maybauer pin correct which seemingly they have now improved upon'.[/QUOTE]