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    #31
    Another one that seems to be a 'scrunched 17 & 18 bead' frame. Repaired jumpring and one of the best cast cores i saw.
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      #32
      Very sharp details in the core

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        #33
        One more for the study.

        http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...18&postcount=1

        http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...3&postcount=12

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          #34
          More i look at those cores the more convinced i get that they are from the same mother die. Even D is same despite band on crown which i think is because of pic.

          (Not counting the '1870 A-type' in post 18)

          Think one key is in the end of stem, where the little hole is. By looking at that area is seems mother die was pushed in more or less hard into the mold material.

          A core is most shallow, then B. C and D seems the same.

          http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...1&postcount=13

          This and the matching of frames makes me believe there's one maker/dies of frames and one Foundry cast the cores.

          Following question will be if there was several Jewellers that put 'em together and did the final touches. Different attachement methods of jumpring might point to that.

          Thoughts?

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            #35
            Would be great if all that has one could get a shot of reverse (oakleaves) with light coming from front only.

            When looking at pic in post 13 it's looks like shades is playing tricks with us.

            A got light from top right

            B below left

            C front

            D front right

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              #36
              When photographing objects, as I learned as a photography minor way back when, one optimally wants ligniting to be from above or just slightly one side or the other of above center. The reason for this is that our minds are psychologically 'wired' to look at objects with light from sbove. This is how we look at things due to the sun being overhead.
              See for yourself. Take a photo with light from above (or 'north') and turn it upside down. Your mind will be in conflict as the shadows being at the top are not how we see things everyday.
              Just some thoughts.
              An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

              "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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                #37
                Originally posted by Tiger 1 View Post
                When photographing objects, as I learned as a photography minor way back when, one optimally wants ligniting to be from above or just slightly one side or the other of above center. The reason for this is that our minds are psychologically 'wired' to look at objects with light from sbove. This is how we look at things due to the sun being overhead.
                See for yourself. Take a photo with light from above (or 'north') and turn it upside down. Your mind will be in conflict as the shadows being at the top are not how we see things everyday.
                Just some thoughts.
                Nice! Yes when you flip a picture 180 degrees it can be crazy to look at when the light is from above!

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Tiger 1 View Post
                  When photographing objects, as I learned as a photography minor way back when, one optimally wants ligniting to be from above or just slightly one side or the other of above center. The reason for this is that our minds are psychologically 'wired' to look at objects with light from sbove. This is how we look at things due to the sun being overhead.
                  See for yourself. Take a photo with light from above (or 'north') and turn it upside down. Your mind will be in conflict as the shadows being at the top are not how we see things everyday.
                  Just some thoughts.
                  True for most photography but not for forensics like cores and frames. In this case we need shots with no shadows at all. Best would be to use a diffused ringflash but not many got those. Pics will look flat but it doesn't matter.

                  Now go and shoot you Prinzen so we can do a proper study

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