Please help with ID

[Albert]

Dear All,

Please help ID the following two medals.

Thanks in advance

Best regards,
Al

[Albert]

and the reverse:

[Albert]

and the second one:

[Albert]

and the reverse which sports a Deschler mm:

[Rick Research]

The first one is a generic veterans association piece, often seen with only the unit designation on the bar different. Whether pre-WW1 or 1920s, I don't know.

The other patriotic item is not anything official either.

[Eric Stahlhut]

The wierd thing about your combined regimental/battaillion/marine (2nd form) award is that while it is for a Bavarian outfit, the cross itself is the Prussian version! Everything else on the cross is Bavarian-oriented.


Here's the reverse of a Bavarian type: