Connected UR PlM posted for opinions

[regular122]

This example has been posted for new association member Bosungus. Steve

[Biro]

This example has been posted for new association member Bosungus. Steve

Standard poor quality S&L.

Marshall

[regular122]

Agree on it being an S&L Marshall.

Some items for discussion and better pics below from Bosungus.

Is the enamel on the face just dirty or is it an enamel repair?

The unusual mounting loop looks like a cheap knock-off but it also looks old upon examination.

The ribbon is rather pleasant looking.

My thoughts. While I don't believe this piece is likely to predate 1960, it does show some age. As an S&L, it has some unusual features. It appears to have a weep hole or some kind of hole on the sides of the horizontal arm rays. Would be interested to know the weight. If hollow (which is highly doubtful) it should weigh in at about 22 grams off the ribbon and without the loop. If hollow, it would be the first to surface of its kind that I am aware of.

I suspect it is a collector market piece from the 1960s or later but if it has been re-enamalled, it would raise some questions as to why. Steve

[regular122]

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[bosungus]

ThanksRegular122 for your comments and posting the pic's.
I was curious when I first saw this PLM. It is made of silver, the eagles are robust, the knees and legs and the tail feathers seem alot more refined than the S&L's. The amount of wear evident on the face appears indicative of being worn under another award, i.e. KC. The hanger I had tested and is silver. The ribbon measured out at 55mm.
I find this example interesting especially when in 1916 thru 1918 gold was prohibited and silver was substituted.
Raising the question, Why would S&L in the 60's or so, use silver when they could just as easily make a copy that was gold plated or gilded which would be more like the original PLM. What do you think. Respectfully Bosungus

[regular122]

Some S&L pieces are actually marked 800 for their silver content. These were made to a pretty decent quality at one time. They have been used to fill vacant space in museum displays, used by a few recipients in old age and have been mostly sold to collectors. As an affordable filler for a collection with decent workmanship and fine enamel, they are hard to beat. Steve

[bosungus]

Hi regular 122, I finally had the PLM it weighed and measured. The weights is 20grams (13pennyweight)
its diameter is 52mm. This was measured with out the loop and it does have a weep hole.
Any ideas?
Thanks, Bosungus

[USGI]

Nice cross, looks to have been worn which is really a plus IMO. Could be pre 1960 but how would anyone ever know for sure.