Hi Guys,
Although I'm primarily a Wehrmacht collector, my several years-long interest in identity discs has lead me to begin acquiring pre-WWII examples, the vast majority of which are from the Great War. My knowledge of Wehrmacht marking practices helps somewhat in deciphering the markings on earlier discs, however there are some parts that still leave me stumped. I'm hoping that maybe you can help me out some. I'm also interested in possibly learning more about these units- to what Division they belonged, where they fought, etc. so suggestions of good references would be most welcome.
Here are the markings:
1) I. E MGK XIII AK 7/80 and 2. MGK. W. J.R. 413
I expect that E MGK is Ersatz MG Kompanie, but what the first 'I', the 'XIII' and 'AK 7/80 are a mystery. Of course the field unit is easier- 2. MG Kompanie, Infanterie Regiment 413, but I'm not sure what the 'W' stands for- 'Württemberger' perhaps?
2)34 RIR, RIR 56, RJR 250
These are Infanterie Regimenter 34, 56 and 250, but what does the first 'R' stand for? 'Reserve'?
3) LDST. J.R. 115
Again obviously Infanterie Regiment 115, but what is 'LDST'?
4) Ldw. J.R. 78
Infanterie Regiment 78... 'Ldw'? 'Landwehr'?
5) L.M.K.i/R.Ai. 157
This one's really confusing- I have NO idea what it means, but it is a proper 1914-type Erkennungsmarke...
6) 5 Rh L R 65
This tag could be pre-WWI- possibly from the 1870/71 Franco-Prussian War. I suspect the Rh L R 65 stands for Rheinlandische Regiment 65, but the '5' preceeding it confuses me- it's not he Bataillon or Kompanie, those are both indicated on the tag as '2 B. 1 C.' Any ideas?
I also have discs marked 10. bay. Jnf. Reg., J.R. 60, ERS. PI. B. 13- there's no difficulty understanding them, but I would love to learn more about the units, so as I said, I'd very much appreciate suggestions of references where I could read about them.
Thanks.
Matt
Although I'm primarily a Wehrmacht collector, my several years-long interest in identity discs has lead me to begin acquiring pre-WWII examples, the vast majority of which are from the Great War. My knowledge of Wehrmacht marking practices helps somewhat in deciphering the markings on earlier discs, however there are some parts that still leave me stumped. I'm hoping that maybe you can help me out some. I'm also interested in possibly learning more about these units- to what Division they belonged, where they fought, etc. so suggestions of good references would be most welcome.
Here are the markings:
1) I. E MGK XIII AK 7/80 and 2. MGK. W. J.R. 413
I expect that E MGK is Ersatz MG Kompanie, but what the first 'I', the 'XIII' and 'AK 7/80 are a mystery. Of course the field unit is easier- 2. MG Kompanie, Infanterie Regiment 413, but I'm not sure what the 'W' stands for- 'Württemberger' perhaps?
2)34 RIR, RIR 56, RJR 250
These are Infanterie Regimenter 34, 56 and 250, but what does the first 'R' stand for? 'Reserve'?
3) LDST. J.R. 115
Again obviously Infanterie Regiment 115, but what is 'LDST'?
4) Ldw. J.R. 78
Infanterie Regiment 78... 'Ldw'? 'Landwehr'?
5) L.M.K.i/R.Ai. 157
This one's really confusing- I have NO idea what it means, but it is a proper 1914-type Erkennungsmarke...
6) 5 Rh L R 65
This tag could be pre-WWI- possibly from the 1870/71 Franco-Prussian War. I suspect the Rh L R 65 stands for Rheinlandische Regiment 65, but the '5' preceeding it confuses me- it's not he Bataillon or Kompanie, those are both indicated on the tag as '2 B. 1 C.' Any ideas?
I also have discs marked 10. bay. Jnf. Reg., J.R. 60, ERS. PI. B. 13- there's no difficulty understanding them, but I would love to learn more about the units, so as I said, I'd very much appreciate suggestions of references where I could read about them.
Thanks.
Matt
Thanks very much Jan- this is exactly what I wanted to know. I look forward to reading what you can tell me about the Divisionen these Regimenter belonged to. I will post a picture of the odd, possibly Artillerie disc shortly.
Serves me right for going by memory and not waiting to get home and flip through references. T
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