'14 ek1 - question

[AlikN]

Any idea when and who made this type of ek?

Thanks
Alik

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[streptile]

That core type was common in WWII, I believe. I've not personally seen it with that reverse hardware, but many makers used the core.

[AlikN]

...any of those makers still in business after the war?

...cross didn't come 'alone'.......came with a "backup"...........which looks postwar.
...I'll take some pics later on.

[streptile]

Yep, this same core was used through the '60s.

[AlikN]

Here it is, ....copy of the 1914 GC star made sometime postwar,
I was just wondering if the maker can be identified .

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[streptile]

Steinhauer & Lück

S&L core
S&L frame
S&L pin
S&L hingeblock
S&L catch

[Mike Kenny]

Several makers used very similar cores and crowns to this example, however they can be distinguished by their dates. Comparing with examples in my collection, I can state;

Not Deumer - used an "open" 4 and very curly tailed 9.
Not S&L - they had a closed 4 but a moderately curly tailed 9
Imo Schauerte & Hohfeld is the best date match with a closed 4 and non-curly 9.

The bright finish on this example looks post-45 to me but the cross hardware was unusual and looked pre-40. The hardware on the star is definitely post-45 imo, so I'd suggest the hardware on the cross was specially made up.

An interesting item for sure!

Regards
Mike

[AlikN]

Here is the link to the thread in post #10 and #11, the star from S&L and it's different.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=55496

[streptile]

Several makers used very similar cores and crowns to this example, however they can be distinguished by their dates. Comparing with examples in my collection, I can state;

Not Deumer - used an "open" 4 and very curly tailed 9.
Not S&L - they had a closed 4 but a moderately curly tailed 9
Imo Schauerte & Hohfeld is the best date match with a closed 4 and non-curly 9.

The bright finish on this example looks post-45 to me but the cross hardware was unusual and looked pre-40. The hardware on the star is definitely post-45 imo, so I'd suggest the hardware on the cross was specially made up.

An interesting item for sure!

Regards
Mike

Mike -- re the cores, are you talking about WWII-era cores?

To me this setup is pure 1957-era S&L. My best suggestion would be to post a link to this thread, or (better still, for an unbiased opinion) repost the photos in the 1957 section. There are some real postwar experts there who will sort it out for you.

By the way, I do not think the Star in the link was made by S&L as stated, but rather custom made up with a wartime S&L 1914-series EK1. That's my guess, as the cross shown in that thread looks wartime S&L, and the one here looks '60s S&L.

[streptile]

1957-era S&L EK1:



Typical S&L pin, hinge and catch style (postwar) -- pin comes in all different lengths: