Here is one that I found in an antique mall not too many years ago. I keep going back but no luck yet. This one has a lot of honest wear exposing the brass where the silver plating has worn off. The reverse is marked "LUPPE & HEILBRONNER G.m b H. MUNCHEN"
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Can you post a picture from the pin.
I'm vary carefull with those badges. I only know 3 versions that i call original, but there are more. To pic upthe good from the bad ones are dificult. You should shows better pictures and close ups.
This one looks pritty to me.
Maybe Fergus can give more informations.
Regards AlexComment
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Like this?Comment
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Pin and hinge are bad. I only know this from fakes. But the badge look not like the most fakes.
RegardsComment
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A while ago someone showed me two of these type of badge. One with a Glaser MM and one with a Preissler MM. The pin/catch set up ,wear etc was exactly the same as this one. I had the chance to spend a few days examining them and did not really reach a definate conclusion. There were good points and bad. This one shows the same over done wear with regard to the silver being worn through. The reverse on the ones I looked at was even more worn than this one, likewise with the front. I have never seen genuine wear like this before . It is improbable that the reverse would lose so much finish when it is pinned motionless to a tunic or whatever and the front nose of the zeppelin would really not wear like that. I could be wrong of course ,maybe the owner had a passion for a shiney nose on his airship but to me it seems like someone not knowing how real patina/wear occurs.
The pin/ hinge/ catch setup is a known type on certain 1930's + badges .which is a good point I suppose but other features suggest not so good. As I said before the wear factor is not convincing and also the fact that the same badge has been seen with three different MMs. The badge type is from the same design as the Juncker examples but thinner material and do not carry any of the die flaws that the latter do. Also the profiling around the edge is hand cut as opposed to shear cut by machine ,which the Juncker ones are. At best ,the blanks could have been struck by Juncker and supplied to other makers for finishing with different hardware but this is fairly unlikely in my mind. There is ' image slip ' or shadowing to the detail of the front of badge to varying degrees certainly on the ones I looked at , which prooved that they were die struck not cast. I am still unure of these but would land on the safe side and say given the evidence that it was IMO a copy. Ferg1Comment
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Thanks again guys for your well reasoned doubts. Looking at the wear it does look more like handling and pocket wear than wear from being worn on a uniform.Comment
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possibly a jewelers copyComment
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I doubt that.pseudo-expertComment
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Not for me Tony. When you see the same badge with the same type of wear bearing different makers marks you have to wonder.pseudo-expertComment
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