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    Some generals, most likely bavarian

    Another photo I got today.
    It was made on a memorial day in 1921 in Munich.



    There is a caption on the back:



    from left to right:

    Kronprinz, Siry, Gen. Henner (??), Ludendorff, ( ???? dahinter Oberst Seisser (???)

    Who can help me read the names right and who can help me identify the persons.



    1 should be the Kronprinz, which one ? Rupprecht I suppose ?
    2 is Siry, a Major, any other info about him ?
    3 is General Henner (or something like that) , also more infos needed.



    4 should be Ludendorff, confirmed ?
    5 another General
    6 a General ??



    7 another General, this one is hard, blurry, looking in the wrong direction, yes, I know, forget about him, too difficult.

    As always, any infos are highly appreciated.
    This photos goes right into my collection of WW 1 and WW 2 Generals.

    Thanks in advance
    Robert

    #2
    Robert,

    To start Ludendorff is number 6...

    Ciao,

    Claudio

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      #3
      Hemmer

      Robert,

      the Bavarian General (5) to the left of General Ludendorff is Generalmajor Hans Ritter von Hemmer, 26 Jun 1869 - 15 Dec 1931 holder of the MMJO (09 Apr 1915) and the PLM (25 Jul 1917).

      The officer in the cap behind Ludendorff is Oberst Hans Ritter von Seisser, 9 Dec 1874 - 14 Apr 1973, another MMJO winner (26 Sep 1914), the chief of the Bavarian Landespolizei.

      Regards
      Glenn

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        #4
        Major Siry

        Robert,

        Siry is Major a.D. Alexander Siry, born 1879. A former officer of the 22nd Infantry Regiment. And of course 1 is Kronprinz Rupprecht von Bayern.

        Regards
        Glenn

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          #5
          Hi Glenn!

          Do you have any career details on Hemmer, incl. date of retirement, please?

          Regards,

          VJK

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            #6
            Hans Ritter von Hemmer

            VJ,

            Hans Hemmer was born on the 26th of June 1869 at München.

            Promotions:

            10 Aug 1888: Joined 11th Bavarian Infantry Regiment as an Officer-Aspirant
            11 Nov 1888: Fahnenjunker-Unteroffizier
            08 Mar 1889: Fähnrich
            06 Mar 1890: Sekondelieutenant
            17 Mar 1897: Premierlieutenant/Oberleutnant
            28 Oct 1904: Hauptmann
            08 Mar 1906: New Patent as Hauptmann from 21 Sep 1904
            07 Mar 1910: Major
            30 Nov 1914: Oberstleutnant
            14 Dec 1917: Oberst
            30 Sep 1920: char. Generalmajor

            He initially served as an infantry officer in the 2nd Bavarian Infantry Regiment before attending the Kriegsakademie in 1899. After that he served mainly in staff appointments apart from a period as a company commander in the 8th Bavarian Infantry Regiment from 25 Oct 1907 - 20 Nov 1909.

            WW1:

            01 Oct 1912: Ia of 1st Bavarian Army Corps
            28 Dec 1914: Chief of Staff 2nd Bavarian Reserve Corps
            06 July 1915: Chief of Staff "Südarmee"
            04 Feb 1918: Chief of Staff 19th Army
            Jan 1919: Member of Bavarian Court Martial Panel
            30 Sep 1920: Retired

            Died 15 Dec 1931 in München

            Regards
            Glenn

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              #7
              No 1 Crown Prince???????

              The officer who is talking to Ludendorf, shown as #4, looks to have GFM batons on his shoulder boards along with holding what seems to be a Field Marshal's baton. Who would he be then if not the Crown Prince?

              Tony
              An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

              "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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                #8
                Crown Prince

                Tony,

                4 is the Crown Prince not 1

                Regards
                Glenn

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                  #9
                  Many thanks Glenn for the very speedy reply and the info! I'm always interested in trying to find out which WWI generals were carried over into the Vorläufige Reichswehr and later the übergangsheer.

                  All the very best,

                  VJ

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                    #10
                    All was calm this morning, I go away to read a book for a few hours, and come back to all this!

                    It is thanks to Ritter von Seisser that all of US will be dead before the 1923 Beer Hall Putsch trial records are released-- 99 years after HIS death.

                    Siry was Ludendorff's "Man In Bavaria," and was arrested as a Beer Hall Putschist in 1923.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Glenn2438
                      Tony,

                      4 is the Crown Prince not 1

                      Regards
                      Glenn
                      Thanks Glenn,

                      I thought so. #1 was mistakenly identified as the CP in the Siry post. No big deal.

                      All the best.

                      tony
                      An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

                      "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Glenn2438
                        Tony,

                        4 is the Crown Prince not 1

                        Regards
                        Glenn
                        Looks 20 years too elder to be Rupprecht. Lived until 1955. Here he is in 1921 married to some young thing and to have more children.
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                          #13
                          Hello to all,

                          it was my mistake. I took the inscription on the back that it was starting from the far left, it didn't.
                          Now, if the Kronprinz Rupprecht is "4", then "5" is General Hemmer, "6" is Ludendorff. Which one is Major Siry, it must be the one standing between Hemmer and Rupprecht.
                          That confirms another photo from that little lot (3 photos), where I first thought that Siry is not on it.
                          Now I can see that Siry is standing behind Ludendorff here:




                          What happened to Siry after the beer hall putsch ? Did he make a Nazi-career ?

                          Thanks so far for all Your input. Still would like to know who then general number 3 is.

                          Kind regards
                          Robert

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