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    #16
    The bar finally arrived in the mail today... Seems that I've been pretty lucky so far in regards to his lables - no damage. I haven't yet been able to pull off a good enough picture with my digital to aqequately show off the condition, but the tabs seem to have less in the way of potential tool marks than do most of my other tab-backed ribbon bars.

    The blue in the leftmost ribbon is even darker than it appears in the photo, and seems to me to the same shade as the Brunswick ribbon. Wondering if there isn't a chance that the Brunswick ribbon is used as a stand in for the Austrian Iron Crown..

    Ah well, at the very least, the device on the Long Service ribbon is stunning...

    --Chris

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      #17
      Could the mobilization medal ribbon be a substitute "use what is on hand-close enough" ribbon for the Charlotte Cross? If so, then could this be a Asst. Arzt's bar?

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        #18
        Originally posted by McCulloh
        Could the mobilization medal ribbon be a substitute "use what is on hand-close enough" ribbon for the Charlotte Cross? If so, then could this be a Asst. Arzt's bar?
        What were the criteria for the Charlotte Cross? That might explain a lot.

        --Chris

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          #19
          You are very wrong!

          That ribbon is the peace-time award of the Austrian Order of the Iron Crown! Yeesh Lündström, AUSTRIA!

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            #20
            Riiick,

            Iron Crown?? With yellow sidestripes?? Neee

            Best regards

            Daniel
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              #21
              The Brunswick noncombatant, you mean?

              Here it is on a medal bar: the colors are the "negative" of the combatant version. Notice the very narrow outer edges.
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                #22
                Here is a Württemberg Charlottenkreuz on top, compared to the Franz Joseph 1908 Inhaber Jubilee Medal below (same ribbon later used for the K.u.k. 1912-13 Mobilization Cross)
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by JensF.
                  Maybe this guy was a Sanitäter (medic) and a battle was listed in his Soldbuch but he didn't took part in the action. The Fronkämpferkreuz was given for battles listed in the Soldbuch but maybe Braunschweig used other standarts for their KVK for non-combatants.
                  I suspect this is the case. On Saturday I purchased a postcard from Stogierick which shows a Gefreiter bandsman @1916-1918 wearing an EK2 AND a Noncombatnt Oldenburg FA cross. Perhaps Brunswick also awarded the noncombatent's medal to soldiers who were sometimes in the front lines, but who primarily were rear eschelon troops.
                  You know, if that Brunswick medal ribbon wasn't there-or it was replaced by an EK2 ribbon, I'd look at that bar and say "cool".

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                    #24
                    combatant Oldenburg

                    No, that's that weird "spectrum shift" photographic process thing again-- dark blue came out LIGHT: Prussian long services are "light" next to "dark" 1897 Centennial yellow in the black and white or sepia finishes then. Easy enough on full sized medals, but a REAL pain with ribbon bar IDs!!!

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                      #25
                      what?! I thought I had a bargain!!!
                      Drat!

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                        #26
                        Help, Help!

                        My brain has fallen and can't get up! DUH! I don't know what the heck I was thinking!

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                          #27
                          Stogieman! I am no where near your league. . . or your twin. . . but, it's great to see you are just as human as the rest of us. I'll bring you a Travis Club El Presidente for he SOS.

                          You're alright!

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                            #28
                            Given those pictures, I'm 99.99% certain that my bar has the jubilee/mobilization medal and the non-combatant Brunswick medal...

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