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    Faked EK1 1914 mm Y backside
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      Faked EK1 1914 mm Y mm
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        Here is another 1870 fake. Source is not known to me but fake it is. Artificial patina and low quality:
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        Last edited by Peter Wiking; 03-29-2005, 04:48 AM.

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          gentlemen-

          thank you for pointing out these "gems".
          although i've not had my paws on any
          of them, the pictures are quite helpful!

          joe

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            Prussian Allgemeine Ehrenzeichen FAKE

            Gentlemen,
            I am truly, greatly encouraged that someone has taken the initiative to try to illuminate neophites like me to the dangers of copies, especially those that are passed off as legitimate, original pieces. I thought I was pretty savvy about things, but I have learned more about copies in the past month just going through this thread than a month of sundays. And as much as it hurts to say, because it makes doesn't make me look too smart, I see that in my collection there are some items that I thought were "right". Well, wrong! I have inadvertedly purchased some items that I thought were good and instead turned out to be duds, in the words of the late, great Eric Ludvigsen. One of my earliest purchases was a Prussian Allgemeine Ehrenzeichen 1st Class. Compared to correct ones that I purchased later, this one weighs a ton, is solid, as compared to original issue ones which are hollow, and the gilt center looks like someone had indigestion and did something indecent to it. Here are its scans. More to come.
            Tony Colson
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              Prussian Allgemeine Ehrenzeichen 1st Class FAKE

              Here is the reverse.
              Tony
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                There are Factory New M-15 EM/NCO Prussian buckles around, many still in the original wrap, so don't assume that a perfect example must be fake. GWM had a crate of them some years back with documentation as brought back by a high-ranking US officer.

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                  PlM fake

                  Even though there was a Thread in which I included this one already I thought it should be listed here as well:

                  bronze gilt single strike coined, enamled and the best on the market...
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                    PlM fake

                    another angle:
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                      PlM fake

                      and another angle:
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                        "Pour le Merite for NCO's"

                        And the newest fake on the Prussian Military Merit Cross or "Pour le Merite for NCO's":
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                          "Pour le Merite for NCO's"

                          ...and the reverse
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                            "PlM for NCO's"

                            ...and the nice fake marking...yet correct after the original "W 938":
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                            Last edited by medalnet; 05-08-2005, 07:55 PM.

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                              The "Goldene Militärverdienstkreuz" looks dangerous! But I think there were no originals with a "800" silver stamp.

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                                How about a cross with a "900" stamped on a side arm and also "900" stamped on the ring? Many Thanks,
                                Tony

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