Strange Ek1, Home made fake?

[morel5000]

Hi All,

recently acquired this (broken now glued, I guess someone tried to bend it.. to check fakeness) one piece non magnetic EK1.

However IMO the crown date and W look a bit like the WS core (the first one in the ek database) see
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=263254
which is used in more EK1's.

The W looks even like it is behind the frame...
Is this a home made cast from an existing cross? Is it a known fake?

Thanks in advance,

Michel

[morel5000]

By the way, the needle is magnetic...

[Jesse]

Yuck, no offence but that is one ugly thing. Gotta be a fake in my opinion.

J

[Montgomery Burns]

it is not home made fore 100%

they're is quality in that

the crown is a known style to

one peace ,mmmm.


wait what others say ...

[Montgomery Burns]

strange to see the W not fitting in the frame .

but it looks to be a one peace ?

points in to a cast copy direction,,,

[Don D.]

A cast fake.

[morel5000]

Thanks Don, Kay and Jesse,

Is this a common fake? Sort of "cast your Iron Cross at home" Kit?

If someone want add it to permanently to the imperial fakes thread, be my guest!

Best regards,

Michel

[Jesse]

Hello Michel, I have not seen one like this before, though I have seen very similar hing and pin set ups on other fakes.
Somebody went to a bit of trouble to make this, I don't think it's a home made job, but who knows.

Regards,

J

[Claudius]

POS

[saschaw]

Never seen this one before, but though without a doubt a modern, cast fake.

[gregM]

Biker crap from the 60s.

[Claudius]

Biker crap from the 60s.

That's an interesting statement.

Greg, are you saying that in the 1960s biker made, or had made WWI EK1s for their personal use? I wouldn't think you would have to bother...there were lots of EK1 around -for cheap.

I'm not challenging your information, I'm just trying to understand the motivation for making (even a poor cast) EK1, when you could get them at any gun show....or was it that they weren't as prevalent as they are now!

[gregM]

I remembers seeing a lot of ww1 and ww2 Eks advertised for sale
in Biker magizines and novelty catalogs that also sold T shirts and
other such crap. Most were cast in lead or some sort of other cheap
pot metal. Back in the mid 60s every teenage boy had a malteese
or "surfer" cross hanging from a chain. I've still got a cast lead
TR ek1. If I can find it, I will post it for you.

I'm not saying that I am 100% positive that is what this is but it has
that look to it.

[morel5000]

Please post it Greg, if you can find it.
It would be interesting. I think this one is not lead, but I'm not sure about the material.
It had a "brittle" break (complete breakage at once after some plastic deformation).

Best regards,

Michel

[Military]

An obvious copy. The details of the crown and date are not clear and crisp for what this should be.