Tschapka Uhlan Metal Helmet

[foil_guy]

Dear all, i am new to this forum, and have found it to be a source of interest. I recently bought an uhlan Lancers metal helmet. I bought it under the provision that it was a reproduction. A friend of mine also has one similar. Through i am into militaria, i collect watches, luftwaffe and british. He however has a large collection of german militaria, Many Pickelhaube's, hundreds of third reich medals and badges, flags, uniforms, you name it. He seems fairly convinced this helmet is authentic, abet repainted, and a coat of vanish on the badge. I'm happy anyway, admittedly i paid £150 for it. But i like the look, so am not concerned. If i may present some images perhaps you can shed some light.








inside the helmet is the stamp mark, i think it reads BJ1 viii then 1917.

best regards

[gregM]

Welcome to the forum

I am not a helmet guy so I can not give you a good evaluation.
The front plate looks good to me. The chinstrap looks to be a
new replacement .

I am sure the helmet guys will give much more help.

[Tony & Kaiser]

// He seems fairly convinced this helmet is authentic, //

His is mistaken. This is a well established copy, they are believed to have originated in the UK. These have fooled a LOT of people.

[berkenkruis]

hello,
i have some doubts about originality
helmet plate seems to be an officers type (original?) and does not correspond with the chapka
feldzeichen who is from an enlisted man
chinstrap is fake
is the upper table dismountable?

[foil_guy]

hi, no the top section is not removeable. So it is indeed a reproduction. Thanks for the info. out of interest what era were these reproduced in the UK?

is it a recent thing. i only ask as the one my friend has is in a very battered and corroded condition.

Best regards

[Tony & Kaiser]

hi, no the top section is not removeable. So it is indeed a reproduction. Thanks for the info. out of interest what era were these reproduced in the UK? is it a recent thing. i only ask as the one my friend has is in a very battered and corroded condition.
Best regards

Foil Guy, a removable top or not has nothing to do with it being original or a copy. On the first model Ersatz Tschapka in 1914 the tin top was rivited on. In 1915 they came out with a removable top, then used the same top for the M1915 regulations.

These fakes look nothing like an original. It is all fake; eagle, body, top, Feldzeichen, chinstrap, you name it. The thought is, that the dick-head who made these (who should be executed) buried them for a period of time. So they all have rust, grime, etc.

[berkenkruis]

do you always execute fakers???
fakers will always exist and the collector needs to have the knowledge and feeling before buying militaria

[Tony & Kaiser]

do you always execute fakers???

Yes. Gladly. I would pull the trigger myself.

[Wild Card]

Yes. Gladly. I would pull the trigger myself.

If you need any help give me a call

[Brian S]

Yes. Gladly. I would pull the trigger myself.

Nice fake. Tony, need a bullet?

[BryanD]

do you always execute fakers???
fakers will always exist and the collector needs to have the knowledge and feeling before buying militaria

I would never kill a faker.
I would rather torture their sorry butts.

[Brian S]

do you always execute fakers???
fakers will always exist and the collector needs to have the knowledge and feeling before buying militaria

disagree, kindly, but people like Floch perform no useful service to the collectors.

[Sergeant 08]

Everybody should try to do his homework....!

But sometimes it does not work and we should choose Tony's way!

"Go ahead, make my day!..... "