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    Period Documentation for Women with 1914 Iron Crosses

    Anybody with any SPECIFIC named or imaged PERIOD examples of women getting Iron Crosses of any sort in World War One (and this thread WW1 only not earlier, please) please add them here.

    Here is, regretably, a scan of a crappy 25+ year old xerox I made from a circa late March-April 1915 issue of the Berlin illustrated magazine "Die Woche." Number 13 (probably 1st week of April-- I didn't note that, alas) page 448. Other people on her page being noted for birthdays were born in late March, when I looked them up just now in the 1909 Orders Almanac.

    "Frl. Lonny von Versen, wurde mit dem Eisernen Kreuz ausgezeichnet."

    Notice that she has a "combatant" ribboned EK2 pinned to her overcoat flap. Whether this was a "combatant" or a "black-white" noncombatant I can't tell. I do not recognize her "uniform," and suspect from absence of Red Cross insignia might have been something like a Johanniter-Orden medical service (tip of white armband showing).

    "Die Woche" started publishing photos of readers who had been decorated with the EK2, but when those became too common, they ran a page per issue of little portraits of EK1 recipients. There was often a time lag, and never any specific award date mentioned.
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    Rick,

    the Countess Törring-Jettenbach. Not quite sure what she got it for!

    Regards
    Glenn
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      Lonny von Versen

      Rick,

      a clearer picture of Sister Lonny von Versen. The original caption says she is wearing the dress of the Hindenburg Sisters She also was awarded the life saving medal.

      Regards
      Glenn
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        Glenn,

        Great pictures, thanks for posting them.

        I have a question about the cross Sister von Versen is wearing. Is it displayed with the reverse side forward? From the picture it looks to have the oakleaf sprig in the center instead of the W.

        Tony
        An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

        "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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          You know, this would make a great little article in the Military Advisor.

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            Hey Rick, Great thread. I've been looking for any documentation on women IC awardees. In 1973, I picked up an IC on a bow thinking it was just an addition to my IC collection, no big deal except IC's for women would be kinda scarce. Then I read that women were not awarded IC's in WW I, then I read that some had received the award early but were cancelled. I almost sold the IC as a "made up" item. I will try and post photos . There is an inscription on the reverse ribbon with a couple of letters and the date '1917'. What do you guys think?
            Bobby lee

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                      Originally posted by Bobby lee
                      Hey Rick, Great thread. I've been looking for any documentation on women IC awardees. In 1973, I picked up an IC on a bow thinking it was just an addition to my IC collection, no big deal except IC's for women would be kinda scarce. Then I read that women were not awarded IC's in WW I, then I read that some had received the award early but were cancelled. I almost sold the IC as a "made up" item. I will try and post photos . There is an inscription on the reverse ribbon with a couple of letters and the date '1917'. What do you guys think?
                      Bobby lee

                      Bobby Lee,

                      I have had several of this type of cross and ribbon combos over the years. I had one 1870 with the 25 year Oaks on a bow ribbon and two 1914s with similar bows. One of them had half of a snap sewn to the back another had a pin. I have seen about a dozen others along the way.

                      I think that this arrangment was meant to be worn on civilian clothes at veteran gatherings and similar non military events. The Iron Cross was held in high esteem and was worn and displayed in many forms after the war. You will find many other variations and attachments such as watch fobs or minature shoulder boards, etc.

                      Without being a killjoy, I doubt that these were for women especially if there is no solid documentation or direct provenance.

                      Irregardless, this bow arrangment of the ribbon is an interesting variation and is neat in it's own right. Nice cross!

                      Best regards,

                      Tony
                      An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it.

                      "First ponder, then dare." von Moltke

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