Can any of our esteemed PLM experts identify the maker and period of this piece for me? It appears to be two-piece hollow construction with chased details. Only mark is a small cross on the suspension loop.
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Side seam.Comment
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Top seam.Comment
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Small cross on suspension loop. Loop appears to be "drawn" wire.Comment
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I am thinking Schickle, but I haven't kept up with the latest thoughts in this area.Comment
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Leroy,
Can you give a pic of the back and also a straight on shot of the front so I can look at the F and eagle relationship? Also, any measurements in mm would be helpful. It is certainly of the Godet style. The 'l' in 'le' is not drop-footed like the catalogue Schickle but it does seem to have a bit wider center than the Godet. The chasing and letter style say Godet except for the short center on the 'M' which is like Schickle. The crown has no right side gap like a Godet that I can discern from the pics though. That is why a straight face shot will help. I am sure many others will have a view as well. I like what I am seeing so far. Thanks, SteveComment
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Here you go. I apologize for my poor photography this morning.
Back.Comment
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Front.Comment
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Closer on eagle. Eagles are separately attached. Measurements are:
Weight: 20.44 g
Width: 54.01 mm
Height from bottom arm edge to top of "pie": 55.28 mm
Arm width: 22.63 mm
"Weep" hole on each arm hidden beneath eagle's wingComment
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I have received a very nice PM advising that this is, in fact, a Schickle.
Does anyone have any thoughts re: time period, value (I'm NOT selling it!), or anything else?
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Is it gold or silver gilt?pseudo-expertComment
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Don,
I honestly don't know. It appears to be gold, but there are no markings anywhere (except the small cross on the loop). I can't see any sign of any other metal underneath the gold. There is some darker discoloration around some of the arm seams, but it looks more like "toning" than tarnish.
Regards,
LeroyComment
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I tend to agree on the Schickle as well due to the things I stated earlier. The crown, the cross center, the 'M' with a high center and the eagle tail feathers sure make it look like one. The enamel is fantastic as there is no spotty separation along the inside edges where it joins the metal like so many modern fakes.
The measurements seem right and are in line with Godet-style crosses. I do not have enough data on Schickle measurements as so little is written about them but the similarities with Godet are pretty well established.
A very fine cross IMO. My guess on a date would be WWII. Thanks for sharing it with us. SteveComment
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Steve,
Thanks very much for your observations!
It was always my thought that this was a wartime-era replacement or wearing copy for officers who had won their original PLM during World War I, but I was never really sure. I have tried to follow the discussions about these crosses, but they can get a bit confusing to the uneducated (like me!). I feel much more at home talking about Knights Crosses.....
In any case, I appreciate the kind words and guidance. I feel very comfortable with this piece now and know I am lucky to have it.
Regards,
LeroyComment
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