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**Rick Research** · 02-26-2002, 12:39 PM

Wartime Leutnants der Reserve are almost always impossible to trace, because they left no "paper trail" to trace a career, the way a regular officer who went on to the Reichswehr and Wehrmacht did.

I don't turn up any trace of him after the war.

**McCulloh** · 02-26-2002, 01:10 PM

hey folks:
Since we are on the subject, what is an "Honor Rank List" as Detlev had for sale this week? Can one trace a chaps career in WW1 via it?
TA,
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Cheers,
JeMc

**Stijn David** · 02-26-2002, 02:33 PM

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Hello rick

Thanks anyway for looking, it would have been to good , i think i wil take it anyway => it stil is a nice grouping.

Friendly Greetings,

**Rick Research** · 02-26-2002, 02:38 PM

The Army Honor Rank List came out in 1926. It simply used the 1914 editions of each State's Rank List, adding wartime junior REGULAR officers, to list casualties for REGULAR officers only. Those who commanded regiments and up have the LAST command they held shown (if they transferred to it 10th November 1918, that's all that shows). Any regular officer who was killed had his death date, place, and actual unit at that time listed, but everyone else simply had their retirement rank or Reichsheer rank listed, with NO dates. There is no first name listed for any officer unless another man of the same rank in the same unit shared the same last name. (Try finding "Oberleutnant Schmidt" from a Prussian Hohenzollern House Order w/Xs list--can't be done!) It did list one assignment for retired Regulars who were recalled, and for zD officers.

The Navy Honor Rank List came out in 1931. It listed ALL officers, regardless of whether Regular, dR, dSW etc, with their first names and full birthdates. The Navy version not only gave every single wartime assignment, month by month, but listed exact retirement date, final rank date, and if they remained in the postwar navy, any and all promotion dates up to 1931.

Both also list death dates up to their issue date.

The navy one is thus very comprehensive, while the army one is more useful for figuring out if and when a Regular was killed or died. Both ignore Beamten almost totally. (There is a separate Intendance Officials' Honor Rank List from 1929.)

**McCulloh** · 03-02-2002, 03:26 PM

According to the History of the 251 Imperial german Army divisions" (a compendium of the US Army Intelligence handbooks in 1918-1919 (all of which are up at Bates college I might add. a gold mine of information on the Freikorps formations): The 19th Landwehr was formed in September/October 1916 at Cortemarck . It was made up of the 383,385 and 388th Landwehr Regimentsas well as a number of reassigned returning wounded troops.
It replaced the 204th Division in October 5th in the Dixmunde-Steenstraat sector. It remained there in the line until November, 1917 when it was sent to Russia. It was then held at Riga,thence to Libau and on Finland by July, 1918. It went to Estonia as of August, 1918.
The Division had the 419th Pioneer Battalion as well as the 303 Pioneer Companie attached to it in 1916.
It was rated a 4th class division.
Cheers,
JeMc

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