I know this is a very common medal but what is it?
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Hungarian World War I Commemorative Medal, combatant typeComment
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medal id
It's the Hungarian war service medal ;same idea as the Hindenburg Cross.It was awarded to the Hungarian part of the Austro-Hungarian empire or to axis troops who fought in their sectors.Comment
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Mounting
What if that medal was mounted on a medal bar with a Prussian EK2, Hindenburg cross w/swords, reuss merit medal (unsure of class but it has a purple ribbon), prussian long service with IX, and then the hungarian Commemorative medal. Would that be traceable?
Here are the medals in the order they are in from left to right on the bar:
Prussian EK2
Hindenburg Cross w/swords
Reuss merit medal (purple ribbon--any help as to which class this is would be much appreciated)
Prussian long service IX
Hungarian Commemorative medal
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The ONLY medal bar groups that can be traced belonged to OFFICERS with a unique combination of pre-1914 Orders or who went on to serve in the Reichsheer and Reichsmarine after WW1-- and had distinctive award combinations.
Rank Lists show these awards.
An officer with common decorations like an Iron Cross and a Hanseatic Cross is NOT traceable. An officer who had nothing traceable before the First World War and no career aftewards is also almost always untraceable... though some WW1 award rolls make the possibility of unique wartime combinations being findable.
NCOs and enlisted men are only traceable in truly freakish occasions like THIS fellow:Comment
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Dang
That is unfortunate because I thik it is really neat when you can attribute a medal bar to a soldier. Didn't know that could only be done with officers. Thanks Rick!Comment
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I think this medal is also on the little ribbon bar I bought yesterday at the market in Ebernhahn. But I wanted to ask something about the Paris and St. Quentin clasps (Gefechtsspangen) on the KDM 1870 medal which I also bought there. Now a friend says they are fakes because they look "too new". Is he right ? I hope not....
Last edited by Carsten126; 08-31-2003, 06:23 AM.Comment
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Difficult to say...
based on the photo alone. They do look way too bright and shiny for 133 years old! I would be just as worried about that ribbon bar! Can you post a better picture, front and back of the ribbon bar?Comment
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Thank you for the info Rick. Despite it is a fake i will use it as a nice decoration.Comment
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The 1870 medal bars look fine. They only date from 1895+ and the quality of gilding then means that almost every one I have ever seen is almost "good as new."
The FAKES (and there are lots of colonial campaign bars out there now, selling for about $8) are brass without gilding... iiiiiiiick. My Evil Twin gave me one, and I can't even scan it because first it had been artificially aged to dull brown (something no Prussian campaign bar should ever look like!) and then too shiny as all brass.
Check out any of the back threads on Southwest Africa, or China, or Colonial Medal bars... all Nice And Fresh gilt.
That's an AWFUL ribbon bar, BTW.Comment
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Wow, Rick, this is good news ! The 100 Euros for it werent useless then. Great. Thank you for the info. I am happy again. Sincerely Carsten
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