Inquiry about the 1813 EK First Class on Ebay

[Ultrarnnr]

Is this cross a fake or and old repro? I have one simular to it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=13965

[Tom Y]

I doubt if it's too old. It looks like it's been artificially aged. Probably on a par with his definitely fake Pilot's Badge. I'm curious what his reserve is.

[Tim Tezer]

The frame is basically a 1914 style. Nice filler piece, but not an original.

Tim

[Tiger 1]

This EK is not one that I would put in my collection as an 1813. It's construction and aging point to it most likely originated in a cave in Arizona.

This cross is a very good reference for what new rust looks like. The more orange the rust, the more likely it is fairly new and of a forced variety. IMO this cross has been artificially aged to resemble something that it's not.

Hope this helps.

[Ultrarnnr]

Seller says that this EK is original and the reserve is $495.....

[Tom Y]

I'll trade him some Florida real estate

[stogieman]

I can do better...

If ya'll think this "real" one is worth $495...., I have some ocean front real estate in Utah I can give you a real sweet deal on...

[Tiger 1]

If the seller really believed or knew for a fact that that this EK was an original 1813 the reserve certainly wouldn't be $495. 1813 EKIs are incredably rare to begin with and after 190 years or so the survival rate is not high. In the 35 years I've been collecting the Iron Cross series I've been lucky to handle and examine exactly three (3) original 1813 EKIs. Maybe others here have been luckier in finding them but I'm still looking for one for my collection. If anyone happens to have an original 1813 EKI that they want to sell or trade please let me know. I could be a serious buyer for one. Heck, for that matter, I even have some very rare moon rocks to trade for it. Thanks!

P.S. Sorry about the want ad pitch.

[Rolf D.]

well now

Hey Rick!!!

The Great Salt Lake used to be an inland sea, is that where you have your land???